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Pure Blue Japan (Denim) - Official Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Jay-D, Oct 28, 2008.

  1. commodorewheeler

    commodorewheeler Senior member

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    so is the 13 cut with the 07 denim still in the works?

    I've heard that it is, and I've heard that it will be called the 12.
     
  2. whatever123

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    Yeah - I'm between 6 - 6'1" at about 190, I think. I don't know - I love the appeal of raws. Shrink that fit right down to ya! I read through the thread and most everyone talked about sizing down on the o/w's.
    i bet your a size 33 in pbjs. i still think a 32 might be just a little small, but thats just my opinion. you can try either, of course, i only mention going with the o/w because you will know how they will fit you right away. whichever one you buy will not fade any better or worse then the other. edit: the other thing you could do if you buy from big is to try the o/w 32 to see how those fit you and then ex-change for the raw 32 or go up a size if you need to. that takes the guessing out of the whole thing.
     
  3. commodorewheeler

    commodorewheeler Senior member

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    From the photo above, I've pretty much decided on picking up a pair for the coming year. I'm on BiG debating between raws in the following cuts.

    XX-005
    XX-005black
    XX-007
    XX-011

    I'm a true 34 in the waist. To avoid excessive sagginess after stretch, I'm thinking I should go with the tagged 32s in any given case. BiG says that in raw state, the average tagged 32 will measure 35 inches in the waist. Then shrink two to a 33, and stretch out to a 34-ish with wear? No?

    What's more, I intend on soaking via bathtub with them on, so they wouldn't shrink down any more than my body.

    Anyone with recommendations or advice? Success or failed attempts at the same?


    I think it really depends on how big your thighs are. I'm also a 34 true waist, and I went with the tagged 32 for my XX-007s. The waist and hips stretched out to a good fit (waist now measures 34.5"), but the thighs are too tight IMO, and I think I have pretty average thighs. 33 might be best, as the others have said.

    BTW, I bought the one wash, and I think they are hot washed and tumble dried, they are really shrunken down. If you buy the raws, you can control the shrinkage a bit better.
     
  4. Cacatfish

    Cacatfish Senior member

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    From the photo above, I've pretty much decided on picking up a pair for the coming year. I'm on BiG debating between raws in the following cuts.

    XX-005
    XX-005black
    XX-007
    XX-011

    I'm a true 34 in the waist. To avoid excessive sagginess after stretch, I'm thinking I should go with the tagged 32s in any given case. BiG says that in raw state, the average tagged 32 will measure 35 inches in the waist. Then shrink two to a 33, and stretch out to a 34-ish with wear? No?

    What's more, I intend on soaking via bathtub with them on, so they wouldn't shrink down any more than my body.

    Anyone with recommendations or advice? Success or failed attempts at the same?


    I am also a true 34 waist and I have the xx 007 in size 34 raw. The wiast has stretched a ridulous amount and it makes the fit a little odd in the hips. Id say the waist is around an actual 36 now.
    The thighs are about right, but I feel I could have gone down to a 32 or 33 and still made the thighs work okay. The denim is really stretchy and I think one or two days on a bike would stretch the thighs to fitting. My thighs measure about 23 inches for reference.
     
  5. El Argentino

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    If reference helps at all - just received a pair of LVC '47's (tagged 34/34) in the mail today via B/S. Previous owner had already cold-soaked them for a bit of shrinkage. Waist at a 33 is a bit snug, but not uncomfortable. Thighs are tighter than I initially gave them credit, but still not a bother. And there's definitely stretch to come.

    Current measurements are:
    Waist: 33"
    Thigh: 12.25"
    Knee: 9"
    Hem: 8.5"
    Inseam: 33.5"

    Sounds about right for a tagged 32 to shrink down...?

    And yes commodore, they'd be a tub soak, so it can only go down so far.

    But in the meantime, thanks all for your input.


    Edit----------!

    Whew! Just looked at the thigh of the raw 32 in the XX-007, and raw it's at 12.25. The minute that touches water it'll be WAY too small. Thanks for the heads up to all those above ^^^
     
  6. jenkinslaw

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    Picking up a pair of 007s, but I am having sizing issues, as well. My current APC NS measure at 36 at the waist, which is comfortable. I am thinking that the 36 OO7 one wash (which measure 36.5 according to Big) will be too loose once they stretch. Debating whether to go with the 34 one wash, which measure 34.5 according to BiG, or the 34 raw, which measure 37 in the waist pre-soak. Looks like the thigh and rise measurements are OK with me for either option.

    Any advice from the PBJ experts would be appreciated. I want to get these hemmed by BiG before they ship them to me, so sizing failure is not an option!
     
  7. commodorewheeler

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    Picking up a pair of 007s, but I am having sizing issues, as well. My current APC NS measure at 36 at the waist, which is comfortable. I am thinking that the 36 OO7 one wash (which measure 36.5 according to Big) will be too loose once they stretch. Debating whether to go with the 34 one wash, which measure 34.5 according to BiG, or the 34 raw, which measure 37 in the waist pre-soak. Looks like the thigh and rise measurements are OK with me for either option.

    Any advice from the PBJ experts would be appreciated. I want to get these hemmed by BiG before they ship them to me, so sizing failure is not an option!


    I would highly recommend that you try these on before you get them hemmed, because if there are any sizing issues, you will not be able to return or exchange them once they are hemmed. It's worth it to pay the extra $25 shipping back and forth to have a pair that will fit properly.

    That being said, it sounds like the 34 raw is the best way to go for you. It fits around your waist to start with, and you can control the shrinkage so that it doesn't get too tight at any point. It will also stretch back out with wear once you shrink it down some.
     
  8. whatever123

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    Picking up a pair of 007s, but I am having sizing issues, as well. My current APC NS measure at 36 at the waist, which is comfortable. I am thinking that the 36 OO7 one wash (which measure 36.5 according to Big) will be too loose once they stretch. Debating whether to go with the 34 one wash, which measure 34.5 according to BiG, or the 34 raw, which measure 37 in the waist pre-soak. Looks like the thigh and rise measurements are OK with me for either option. Any advice from the PBJ experts would be appreciated. I want to get these hemmed by BiG before they ship them to me, so sizing failure is not an option!
    hey slaw. what commodore said ... you need to get a size 34 (either o/w or raw). they will be just a tad tight for a day but will stretch out to 36 w/o to much difficulty.
     
  9. cowsareforeating

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    also, just belt your jeans when you get them to the perfect waist.. then they wont stretch


    and yes. i do enjoy wearing raw denim. feels lovely.
     
  10. whatever123

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    do any of you people have the ai 001 or 002 with any wear? i am trying to locate a wear pic.

    i am going to get a natural indigo pair of pbjs this year and need something to use as a wear reference.
     
  11. whatever123

    whatever123 Senior member

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    this is amazing!

    this is a pair of pbj ai-001's worn daily for 3 years. they tend to fade evenly and look at all that color left.

    im gotta get a pair these soon.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. El Argentino

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    Just got my raw xx-007's in the mail today. So excited. The fit in the top block is spot on, while the legs below the knee are a bit more baggy than images would have led me to believe. Going to post some fit pics after a hot bath soak when I get some time.

    Can't believe how dark it is. It's like staring into my soul.
     
  13. whatever123

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    Just got my raw xx-007's in the mail today. So excited. The fit in the top block is spot on, while the legs below the knee are a bit more baggy than images would have led me to believe. Going to post some fit pics after a hot bath soak when I get some time. Can't believe how dark it is. It's like staring into my soul.
    the knees and hem will come in about a 1/2-3/4" depending on how you washed/soaked. i totally know what you mean when you see the usps box on your doorstep from big because it just totally makes your day! ive been shopping at big for 5 years now and i still get excited EVERYTIME i see that usps box. they are so awesome!
     
  14. whatever123

    whatever123 Senior member

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    Just got my raw xx-007's in the mail today. So excited. The fit in the top block is spot on, while the legs below the knee are a bit more baggy than images would have led me to believe. Going to post some fit pics after a hot bath soak when I get some time.

    Can't believe how dark it is. It's like staring into my soul.


    hey tino ... how are your 007s? can you take fit pics?
     
  15. RedDC5R

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    Guys,

    I just got a pair of 005's raw and I've tried wearing them around the house but they are still really stiff. I'm really happy with waist and leg fits but should I be jumping in the bath tub with them on to speed up the softening process? I don't want them to shrink cos fit is perfect right now so maybe a cold soak and dry? Thanks...
     
  16. Rolfi

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    if they're raw you're going to have to soak it before you wear it. otherwise your cuffs and combs will be all messed up once it shrinks after you washed your jeans when they get dirty. plus you probably won't be able to fit in the jeans anymore. just see if you can return the jeans and size up 1 and then do the regular hot soak/wash prior to wear
     
  17. whatever123

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    Guys, I just got a pair of 005's raw and I've tried wearing them around the house but they are still really stiff. I'm really happy with waist and leg fits but should I be jumping in the bath tub with them on to speed up the softening process? I don't want them to shrink cos fit is perfect right now so maybe a cold soak and dry? Thanks...
    hey man. the denim on the 005 is really quite slubby and will stay stiff for a while. after a couple washes and you wear them for a couple weeks they will start to feel more comfortable ... maybe less depending on how much you wear them. even though the top-block fits you perfectly you still need to wash/soak them to get most of the shrinkage out of the way (unless there a o/w version). they will stretch back out after you wash - i promise you [​IMG] giving them a nice hot wash will actually soften them up a tad as well. now, you can certainly wear them in the tub while you soak but its not necessary and is a giant pain in the ass. i guess the argument to do this is they conform to your body but after a few wears they will do that anyway. pbj denim is very forgiving and its really not necessary to soak these while wearing but you can, obviously. if i were you i would soak them in your tub with the hottest water you have (filling with fresh hot water every 15 minutes) for 2 hours or give them a nice hot/cold wash in your washer using a gentle cycle ... no need to use detergent with either method. they will shrink in both rises, upper-thigh, knee and hem about a 1/2," while about 1.5-2" in the waist and inseam ... unless you got the o/w version in which case they will not shrink, unless you stretched them out. i would hang them to dry. if you use your dryer use med/high heat but dont leave them in longer then 20 minutes.
     
  18. commodorewheeler

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    Guys,

    I just got a pair of 005's raw and I've tried wearing them around the house but they are still really stiff. I'm really happy with waist and leg fits but should I be jumping in the bath tub with them on to speed up the softening process? I don't want them to shrink cos fit is perfect right now so maybe a cold soak and dry? Thanks...


    Cold soak would be fine if you don't want them to shrink much, but if you do it this way, you're going to want to always wash them cold from now on. If you ever wash them hot, you're going to get a lot of shrinkage.
     
  19. RedDC5R

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    hey rolfi - I didn't size up initially cos I read the PBJs stretch a fair bit as stated by whatever123. I understand I'll need to soak now so cuffs etc are gonna be in proportions. will wear them in the tub to ensure they do not shrink so small that I won't be able to get into them again. I can't afford to have them shrink 1.5 - 2in in the waist so cold soak is the only option now and ongoing washes..

    Any other tips I should be aware of?? Thanks guys..
     
  20. El Argentino

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    hey tino ... how are your 007s? can you take fit pics?
    Tomorrow - with MLKJr day off school, I'll have a block enough to soak and wear wet.
     

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