Pure Blue Japan (Denim) - Official Thread

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  1. Trapp

    Trapp Senior member

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    DO NOT size down on PBJs

    KitAkira,

    Is this true? My waist measures 33" with a tape and BIG recommended I get size 30 in either the xx-005 or the xx-013.

    Live in California so I can't try on any PBJ's. These are other jeans and relative sizes i wear:

    IH 634S - size 31
    APC New Standard - size 30
    RRL raw indigo slim fit - size 30

    I'm looking for a good, slubby jean with a slim-straight cut that I can wear with big boots.
     


  2. KitAkira

    KitAkira Wait! Wait! I gots an opinion!

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    I have a true waist of 28" and my PBJs (XX-010, cut the same as the XX-005) are tagged 28, for the first 2 weeks of wear my hips had to do battle with them to stretch, maybe I have bitching hips but that was a bit much (though I could easily have gone with a 29, my jeans fit about as perfectly as I'd like them to be though I prefer them to be very slim). The hips are actually more important than the waist in my experience (though I wear mine at the waist rather than sagged)

    If you plan on wearing them over boots, this may not be the cut for you, while they are indeed straight from the knee down (and therefore a literal slim-straight cut), they taper a ton in the thighs so the leg is still really slim. They fit perfectly over my PS Ricards but I doubt that they'd do well over some large Engineer boot (though they can be tucked). The hem/knee on mine is 7.125"

    PS: I skated in my jeans a few days ago for the first time and fell and got these amazing stack fades.... too bad the jeans weren't stacked normally because they were over skates so they look completely out of place, oh well
     


  3. Trapp

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    Thanks for the info on your experience. I'm confused then as to why BIG suggested I size down three whole sizes from my true 33 to a tagged size 30. It doesn't square at all with your 28 waist fitting so well with your 28 tagged xx-010.

    I need to find a way to try these on.

    btw, the boots I was referring to are aldens, so not quite as clunky as the engineers.

    Speaking of skating, I thrifted some roller skates last week and intend to skate outside soon. Just need to nail down my size so that I can do in some stiff new slubby jeans.[​IMG]

    I have a true waist of 28" and my PBJs (XX-010, cut the same as the XX-005) are tagged 28, for the first 2 weeks of wear my hips had to do battle with them to stretch, maybe I have bitching hips but that was a bit much (though I could easily have gone with a 29, my jeans fit about as perfectly as I'd like them to be though I prefer them to be very slim). The hips are actually more important than the waist in my experience (though I wear mine at the waist rather than sagged)

    If you plan on wearing them over boots, this may not be the cut for you, while they are indeed straight from the knee down (and therefore a literal slim-straight cut), they taper a ton in the thighs so the leg is still really slim. They fit perfectly over my PS Ricards but I doubt that they'd do well over some large Engineer boot (though they can be tucked). The hem/knee on mine is 7.125"

    PS: I skated in my jeans a few days ago for the first time and fell and got these amazing stack fades.... too bad the jeans weren't stacked normally because they were over skates so they look completely out of place, oh well
     


  4. KitAkira

    KitAkira Wait! Wait! I gots an opinion!

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    Yeah, I don't normally skate in these jeans (that's what cheap 501STFs are for lol) but I didn't feel like going home and changing, once they break in I'm comfortable enough doing just about anything in them
     


  5. KitAkira

    KitAkira Wait! Wait! I gots an opinion!

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    Also, it may help to know that the waist of my jeans actually measure out (just did this) to 30" unaligned, but the hips would likely never allow for a true sz.30 to fit into them
     


  6. Rolfi

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    pbj denim can stretch a lot if you want it to. i sized down one to 33 and it's a pretty tight fit in the top block and the thighs after a soak. but after a couple of wears it just stretches out.

    if you want a slim fit size down one, if you're really skinny you can try going down 2
     


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    christ sizing down 2 on pbjs sounds excruciatingly sadistic.
     


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    Not sure if anyone cares, but after a few months with the xx-005s I decided to get them tapered .5". Widening the selvedge line and not cutting any fabric, I'll post again when I get them back.
     


  9. Trapp

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    christ sizing down 2 on pbjs sounds excruciatingly sadistic.


    This is the response I got from BIG after mentioning that my waist measures 33 by the tape and posting familiar jeans sizes I wear, such as New Standard in size 30 and Left Field 1 rinse Tweeds in 33 (and others mentioned above):

    "PBJ and Samurai do make some of the slubbiest denims we carry. For PBJ, the
    XX-005 is their slim straight fit and the Blue in Green version, XX-013 is
    the same denim and similar fit but with a tapered leg. If a 33 in the LF
    Tweeds would have fit well then that does put your waist at 33" and if
    you're looking to wear your jeans raw, then a size 30 in the PBJ XX-005 and
    BiG XX-013 would most likely be the best fit.
    Unfortunately for the LF
    Tweeds though they're no longer available in any size, now or in the future,
    as the denim is all gone."

    So they're recommending I size down three sizes on PBJ's. Based on what I'm reading here, this would be agony.
     


  10. KitAkira

    KitAkira Wait! Wait! I gots an opinion!

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    I highly doubt you'd even be able to get them past the thigh
     


  11. Jay-D

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    This is the response I got from BIG after mentioning that my waist measures 33 by the tape and posting familiar jeans sizes I wear, such as New Standard in size 30 and Left Field 1 rinse Tweeds in 33 (and others mentioned above):

    "PBJ and Samurai do make some of the slubbiest denims we carry. For PBJ, the
    XX-005 is their slim straight fit and the Blue in Green version, XX-013 is
    the same denim and similar fit but with a tapered leg. If a 33 in the LF
    Tweeds would have fit well then that does put your waist at 33" and if
    you're looking to wear your jeans raw, then a size 30 in the PBJ XX-005 and
    BiG XX-013 would most likely be the best fit.
    Unfortunately for the LF
    Tweeds though they're no longer available in any size, now or in the future,
    as the denim is all gone."

    So they're recommending I size down three sizes on PBJ's. Based on what I'm reading here, this would be agony.


    Size 30 is too tight. Size 32 is your size for a comfortable fit, size 31 for a slim tight fit which will stretch out for a perfect fit after a couple weeks of wear.
     


  12. theom-

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    They are saying you should go for 30 if you looking to wear RAW, that means unsoaked. PBJs measure quite large before the soak and shrink quite a bit.
     


  13. Trapp

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    They are saying you should go for 30 if you looking to wear RAW, that means unsoaked. PBJs measure quite large before the soak and shrink quite a bit.

    Thanks. I know BIG is referring to raw, and I think Kitakira, bakatora, Rolfi, and Atsui were referring to their experience of the raw PBJ's as well. Anyways, I'm definately interested in the raw xx-015 and xx-013.

    I'll probably try a 31.
     


  14. KitAkira

    KitAkira Wait! Wait! I gots an opinion!

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    Mine were O/W [​IMG]
     


  15. Rolfi

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    christ sizing down 2 on pbjs sounds excruciatingly sadistic.

    hence why i said if you're a skinny dude yourself you could get away with it.
     


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