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Public university vs. land grant university

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by ArteEtLabore14, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Teacher

    Teacher Senior member

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    According to wikipedia, only North Dakota State is a land-grant school. Again, according to wikipedia, U of ND actually began before ND was a state, meaning it was created before the Morrell Act would have applied.

    So, you've buttressed my statement [​IMG]

    There are also farmer fraternities at the local cow college here.


    Strange, the university identifies itself as a land-grant school.
     
  2. Connemara

    Connemara Senior member

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    The most prestigious public universities were those which began in the classic style. The University of Michigan, UNC, UVA, UGA, Tennessee, Alabama, etc. A notable exception is the University of Texas in Austin; which was the second state university in Texas (A&M was first, and the landgrant school) however it became the more prestigious. Berkeley was a Morrell Act school that ceded it's responsibilities under the act to some other UC school so that it could pursue a more liberal arts/law/etc curriculum. And, it's a perennial top 5 public university now.
    Oh, I thought those were all land-grant, save the UCs.
     
  3. rdawson808

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    Another important difference: Land-grants have Extension Service offices. These are the people who take the research that is done and take it out into the field (or fields, as it oftentimes literally is).

    And by no means are the land grant schools the more prestigious. I offer you the University of Washington and Washington State University. One of these schools has the top ranked teaching hospital in the country and has had some 35 or so Rhodes Scholars. The other has a student body consisting almost entirely of cow herders (including many of my dumber HS classmates) and is named Washington State University.

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  4. crazyquik

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    University of Wisconsin is a bit of an anomoly; it opened before the Morrill Act, was converted to a land-grant school, but retained it's flagship status. UWisc has long had a view that the borders of the university were coterminous with the borders of the state, however.
     
  5. Dakota rube

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    No, Teach, NDSU is the land-grant school here. Moooooooooooo! [​IMG]
     
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    Michigan State is the Land Grand School in Michigan (Can there be more than one?). They defiantely have the farm program and the regional extension offices. I always understood that part of the charter with a land grand was that it had to provide training/curriculum/support/focus on Ag stuff.

    Are the A & M's basically the same thing?
     
  7. jgold47

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    Michigan State is the Land Grand School in Michigan (Can there be more than one?). They defiantely have the farm program and the regional extension offices. I always understood that part of the charter with a land grand was that it had to provide training/curriculum/support/focus on Ag stuff.

    Are the A & M's basically the same thing?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land-grant_university

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_grant_colleges

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Grant_Colleges

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_grant_colleges
     
  8. Jim McDade

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    There seem to be a lot of bias against land grant schools in many of these posts. There is no concrete reason why a modern land grant school cannot exceed it's public funded counterpart academically. Auburn University, a land grant school has higher admission standards and higher academic ratings than the university of Alabama. Alabama focuses on scalar growth (increasing total numbers of students and graduates), while Auburn focuses on vector oriented growth (higher academic standards with slower growth). That said, the pressure of excelling in financially lucrative NCAA athletic competition causes both publicly funded and land grant schools to offer less than rigorous coursework for "the athletically or artistically gifted". That's why schools like Alabama have to include cheerleaders as part of their athlete count in order to keep their APR numbers up and why Auburn has had issues with it's Sociology Department in the past. However, many of the "magazine" ratings place Bama above Auburn in their list because Alabama recruits more National Merit Finalists for liberal arts programs and Alabama ha s huge endowment. Those two things skew those ratings.
     
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    But Florida State would probably lose against Alabama, and it won't against Auburn. Therefore, your entire argument is invalid.
     

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