I know they have a bad rap for being overpriced, having horrible washes and cuts, and just being a little too gaudy in general. However, I really like the looks of these. I LOVE the coloring, and the back pockets. The stitching, leather patch, buttons, snaps on the waist, and camo pocket are also pretty neat details, although probably not things 'normal' people are going to notice while you're wearing them. How 'bout some pics? I can't get over how much I love the rich fading and coloring. My concern, however, it the cut/fit. Most models on factorypeople (and most other sites) don't wear their jeans well, in my opinion. I like my NS, Sven, Mic, and Jim. In other words, fitted from the thighs up.