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  1. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Distinguished Member

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    Any folks here have linen shirts (or blends) with fused collars? If so, thoughts?
     

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    sid11111 Well-Known Member

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    Avoid. I expect that you're getting linen for its permeability. With fusing, you kill all of it by funking up the collar with glue.
     

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    macjedi Senior Member

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    I have a few of both and prefer fused over the soft when wearing tailored clothing.

    If the linen or linen-cotton is real lightweight, the soft collar gets misshapen and crumbles under my jacket. The linen-cotton oxfords do well with a soft collar though ... wearing one today with a jacket and tie.

    For the 'Redondo' and 'Grandi and Rubinelli' I went with the President Spread II Collar, Soft One Button Cuff and No Placket. If I wear them tieless, I roll the collar between my thumb and finger to get a bit of a soft roll ... like you get with the soft collar. Hope this helps.
     

  4. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Distinguished Member

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    Definitely helpful. A picture of the oxford linen blend would be awesome. Those were what I was eyeing. I was planning to try a Redondo with a fused collar, as well, so glad to hear your thoughts.
     

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    benjamin831 Distinguished Member

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    PC should have an option to get rid of the gaulet button. So much easier to iron
     

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    ny3pcg Senior Member

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    I’ve yet to buy shirts from PC that aren’t worn with a tie. For this particular fabric (pindot print broadcloth) https://propercloth.com/fabrics/white-and-navy-pindot-print-2523.html
    would you all go with a soft unfused collar such as the soft President spread or go with the fused version? I’d be wearing it with or without a sport coat and jeans. As always thanks for the advice.
     

  7. cp3

    cp3 Senior Member

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    Definitely soft. Their soft collars still have structure via the interlining and hold up under jackets. For a casual fabric like that pindot it would be less versatile with a hard collar imo.

    You can reset the collar throughout the day to help it stand, see: Eidos Napoli
     

  8. shirtsnob

    shirtsnob Senior Member

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    based on what u said

    Id go soft....







    also consider the ivy bd, and the colorado too
     

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    ny3pcg Senior Member

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    Thank you for the feedback. Is the soft president spread unmanageabe if it’s not under a jacket? I tend to prefer no buttons on the collar but unfortunately I see that the hidden button option only comes in the fused version.
     

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    I have tonsa soft ivy's, and almost tonsa soft pres'

    the soft pres spreads when opened w/o tie have no ''stand up" qualities at all. I barely wear them due to this.....to floppy. I prefer the soft franklin as it is a bit smaller and handles itself better

    re soft pres:w/ a tie they look very nice and almost sprezzy
     

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    shirtsnob Senior Member

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    Ive asked for yrs!!!!!....gaunt butt is just so ...MACYS...lol
     

  12. cp3

    cp3 Senior Member

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    Apologies, should have noted my experience is with the roma cutaway which may "stand" more than others because of its spread. I highly recommend this collar for casual looks but some find it too forward.

    Definitely go with a normal placket and not french if you want your collar to stand.

    The look books are a good resource for seeing examples: https://propercloth.com/collections/joshua-tree#8 . You can double check the particular collar below the gallery for individual shirts. They do suggest soft details for your preferred fabric.

    Still believe that fabric would look odd with a fused collar though. You could also use a little starch if it bothers you, although that is probably not SF approved.
     

  13. cp3

    cp3 Senior Member

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    + 1 would save on construction costs even.
     

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    Have you tried the soft President with a normal placket and it still doesn’t stand up?
     

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    I use a french front...no placket


    nope..never stands up...ever.....Im always pulling on collar thru the event/evening
     

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