Proper Cloth - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Seph, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. oldschoolcool

    oldschoolcool Active Member

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    Hi all,

    Was wondering what pocket style you choose for your OCBDs? Rounded or Angled? Thanks!
     


  2. venividivicibj

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  3. djs5150

    djs5150 Well-Known Member

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    Do any of you guys wear the Presidential Spread collar without a tie under a jacket? Or, even no tie and no jacket? I wonder if the collar would flare too much for that. I saw a picture of a politician wearing a spread collar and no tie and it flared out BAD! Any pictures you guys have would be greatly appreciated too. I really appreciate the assistance I get on here.
     


  4. djs5150

    djs5150 Well-Known Member

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    I prefer the rounded or none look.
     


  5. CLTesquire

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    I've tried a soft President without a jacket/tie and it does flare out. I like the idea but in practice probably prefer a soft Ivy BD for that situation.
     


  6. djs5150

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    Thanks for the reply. I was actually talking about the stiff version. Which if the soft version I would imagine the stiff one does as well? Any experience?
     


  7. oldschoolcool

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    I have the stiff version (president spread v.2) and it stands up much better than the original version. I rarely wear it without a tie, but for the times that I have worn it open, it has held up well.
     


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    Do you ever wear it without a tie AND without a jacket? If so, do you get a lot of flare?
     


  9. eddiemczee

    eddiemczee Senior member

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    Same here.
     


  10. WillingToLearn

    WillingToLearn Senior member

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    PC still missing the boat on pique popovers - huge loss of sales opportunity there...
     


  11. oldschoolcool

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    To be honest i use the stiff president spread collar for my suit shirts. They normally are worn with a tie and jacket. I have worn it under a jacket without a tie and it has held up pretty well. I can't say i have worn it without a jacket however. If I was looking for a shirt to wear without a tie or jacket I would probably opt for an unstructured collar - the soft ivy button down would hold up well unbuttoned.
     


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  13. shirtsnob

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    huge?......not so sure about huge
     


  14. WillingToLearn

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    What's your understanding of their cost model, particularly the fixed vs. variable component? How many customers that have nailed a fit/pattern wouldn't also like a few pique popovers in some basic colors - colors that could safely be purchased in large volume with commensurate pricing? What would the incremental marketing costs be to generate those sales?
     


  15. shirtsnob

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    Ive been involved in the fashion world for over 40 yrs...basically in /around the NYC area........perhaps in our small world here on SF it may seem a popover to be widely used/desired.......yet my experience and my visuals say a popover is not a big want by the masses..

    In my opine, PC is not missing a big boat here.........they are missing something yes.....but not big by my measure...........and of course I could be wrong

    A few of us wanted a no guantlet button option...not very costly u would think right?.....PC said no
     


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