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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tokyo Slim, Apr 5, 2005.

  1. chrisc

    chrisc Well-Known Member

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    What the hell? How come nobody told me about this product design thread? If all goes well, I will begin studying product design soon, so it's nice to see that fashionable people here are also into this. I LOVE design from the Loewy-era, which was during the 30s and 40s (The Art Deco era also ranks up there.) I'll post a couple of pictures from time to time now! Here's what I'll put it now. [​IMG] The above picture is a prototype pencil sharpener from Raymond Loewy. Here's an antique desk lamp. [​IMG] A pair of cool dumbbells [​IMG] A nice machine age deck clock [​IMG] Cool bookends [​IMG] This isn't really product design, but fudge it. Seeing pictures of the old Penn Station in NYC makes me weep. WHY OH WHY!? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] And here's an interior pic of the ass-ugly one that replaced it during the 60s... [​IMG] Took this quote from Wikipedia: Comparing the new and the old Penn Station, architectural historian Vincent Scully once wrote, "One entered the city like a god, one scuttles in now like a rat."
     


  2. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim In Time Out

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    This is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
     


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    tiger02 Militarist

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    http://www.yoox.com/item/tskay/3FD17...Design+Objects


    This is what I was thinking about when I was criticizing poorly designed objects.

    It is designed to be a lemon juicer, and yet it fails to do that. First of all, it doesn't have anything to separate the lemon seeds from the lemon juice. Unless you enjoy drinking lemonade with seeds, you need to strain the seeds from your cup after using this lemon juicer. And, the lemon juice doesn't drip to where it should, but all over the person trying to extract the lemon juice.

    Sure, people have different tastes, and some people are going to love this design. But, then, if aesthetics is that important, why not just get a piece of art with no pretense to functionality. That way, you could get something smaller or larger, something which would actually work better as art than a pseudo art/lemon juicer.
     


  5. faustian bargain

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    If you haven't seen the movie Mon Oncle, it's probably one you would enjoy.
     


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    Brian SD Moderator

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    Such is the problem with many of Stark's designs. I think any student in my design class could come up with designs like his. It's nothing entirely original in terms of aesthetics, either. It's just another variation of the minimalist metal trend. Anyone could draw this and get this thing made, but what's the use if it can't do its job? A good designer knows that function IS design. I'm not saying that Stark isn't a good designer, but items like this feel like they were 5-minute sketches that got carried out simply because they have the name recognition and the budget to do so.
     


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    Jacques Tati's character might be more in tune with that Kids Don't Understand thread.

    As for Starck, his designs tend to be known for their unapologetic whimsy and slight kitsch. Also he was very much influenced by Memphis which wasn't really that practical.
     


  8. tiger02

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    It is designed to be a lemon juicer...
    [​IMG] Crap, I thought it was a pitchfork...
     


  9. Tokyo Slim

    Tokyo Slim In Time Out

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  10. faustian bargain

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    speaking of pain.

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  11. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Such is the problem with many of Stark's designs. I think any student in my design class could come up with designs like his. It's nothing entirely original in terms of aesthetics, either. It's just another variation of the minimalist metal trend. Anyone could draw this and get this thing made, but what's the use if it can't do its job? A good designer knows that function IS design. I'm not saying that Stark isn't a good designer, but items like this feel like they were 5-minute sketches that got carried out simply because they have the name recognition and the budget to do so.
    While many of Starck's designs are average or worse, he has designed some light fixtures that are absolutly iconic. I particularly like the "Cicatrices de Luxe" group and the black Baccarat chandeliers. Other good ones are from the Archimoon series. The Archimoons are not necessarily original, but they are a perfected version of what came before them, much like Jasper Morrison's Glo-balls. The most original mainstream furniture designer currently working is probably Marcel Wanders. I had the opportuniy to spend a day at his studio last summer and it is a truly fascinating place. I would suggest calling if you are going to be in Amsterdam, as they are happy to show people around. I also like the work of Hella Jongerius and Maarten Baas from the same region, although the utility of some of their products is not great. I also love the furniture of Ineke Hans. Two other designers (or teams) that meritspecial note are the Bouroullecs and Jasper Morrison. They are the heirs to the Eames aesthetic and have done some trul spectacular work over the last few years. Their products are eminently useable. My personal favorite furniture designer is Tom Dixon. His products are relatively useless, but are aesthetc tours de force. I think that the S-chair may be the most beautiful product of the last 20 years.
     


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    While many of Starck's designs are average or worse, he has designed some light fixtures that are absolutly iconic. I particularly like the "Cicatrices de Luxe" group and the black Baccarat chandeliers. Other good ones are from the Archimoon series. The Archimoons are not necessarily original, but they are a perfected version of what came before them, much like Jasper Morrison's Glo-balls. The most original mainstream furniture designer currently working is probably Marcel Wanders. I had the opportuniy to spend a day at his studio last summer and it is a truly fascinating place. I would suggest calling if you are going to be in Amsterdam, as they are happy to show people around. I also like the work of Hella Jongerius and Maarten Baas from the same region, although the utility of some of their products is not great. I also love the furniture of Ineke Hans. Two other designers (or teams) that meritspecial note are the Bouroullecs and Jasper Morrison. They are the heirs to the Eames aesthetic and have done some trul spectacular work over the last few years. Their products are eminently useable. My personal favorite furniture designer is Tom Dixon. His products are relatively useless, but are aesthetc tours de force. I think that the S-chair may be the most beautiful product of the last 20 years.
    Matt, I know you've got some pics of this stuff [​IMG]
     


  14. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Matt, I know you've got some pics of this stuff [​IMG]

    I can snap some pictures of what I have in my house, but I am not a very good photographer. Here are some stock pics...

    Cicatrices de luxe: [​IMG]

    Bouroullec Spring: Chair:[​IMG]

    Dixon S-Chair: [​IMG]

    Wanders Knotted Chair: [​IMG]

    Ineke Hans: [​IMG]

    Maarten Baas: [​IMG]
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    Let me know if you are interested in any real life shots, and I will try to take them. I believe that all of those except the burnt Carlton are somewhere here in out house.
     


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