I was reading the thread "How do others rate Allen Edmonds" and the following statement grabbed my attention: to add to the price/cost opinions, i would say that AE's are right at the knee of the curve where it moves into the territory of diminishing returns. (not that the returns aren't real, just that they are less and less affordable.) I began to wonder if anyone felt that other clothing makers fit the same characteristics as AE. For example, are there any suits that fall at the "knee of the curve"? Shirts? Ties? etc. On a more personal level, I consider AE's to be within my budget and would appreciate any recommendations for suits etc. that might fall within this price scale (e.g. I have no idea what the price of a suit of "AE" quality would be). Thanks in advance, and I apologize if this question has been posed before (my meeger searching skills were not fruitful).