Both pants have been worn twice. I realize that I do not like pleats, at all, except when wearing a suit. These pants have been brushed before and after each wear. Both are charcoal grey and 100% wool. Please see pictures for measurement. Will discount for purchasing both pairs. The Incotex are a flannel weight-Dbl Pleat-$75 $65 SOLD Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler! a href="http://s910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/gyasih/Incotex/?action=view¤t=IMG_1137.jpg" target="_blank"> The Zegna can be worn three seasons-Single Pleat-$55 Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!