Up for sale is a pair of Bally Banner patent leather formal shoes. These are marked 9N, and they are indeed narrow. I'm a true 9 on the Brannock Device and they are too snug for me, even with formal hose. These would probably suit an 8.5 or possibly even an 8. $50>$45 shipped CONUS, international buyers pay real shipping cost. PayPal only please. Thanks.