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Pregnancy Entrapment - What are your legal rights, if any?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by xchen, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. xchen

    xchen Senior member

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    A friend of mine's girlfriend told him she was on the birth control shot and he could have sex with her with no condom. He did, and now she is pregnant. She has told him her family took her to get the shot and her family that he took her to get it. At this point it looks like no shot was gotten. He found out she had done this to two other guys right before him but he is the first one who got her pregnant. The other males were his friend and a casual encounter from a dating site.

    She wants to keep the baby, he doesn't. He would prefer abortion or adoption, but has accepted that he might be paying child support for the next 18 years and intends to have no contact with the child and only contact her in court if necessary. He is 22 and she is 23.

    The girl is literally crazy and it seems like she is doing this on purpose. Does he have any legal recourse or has she ruined his life?
     
  2. Dakota rube

    Dakota rube Senior member

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    Should've thought about this beforehand.
    Unfortunately.
     
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    ^^^ Rube speaks the truth.
     
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    I'm sorry about your friend.

    It's a shitty situation, and there's nothing he could do about it. In terms of child support, courts look out for the best interest of the child, and if that means screwing your friend, so be it.

    Since the girl is a nutjob, he might have a chance of gaining custody of the kid. But as he wants nothing to do with it, the girl will have the baby and a steady stream of income from him.
     
  5. Blackhood

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    Yeah, not much in terms of legal precedent, but depending on the state/country he might be able to fight it with testament from the other guys.

    No judge would actually force a guy to pay child support if it was clear he was tricked into it. Essentially most judge/jury would say "You want a baby, you gotta pay for it bitch!"
     
  6. scarphe

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    A friend of mine's girlfriend told him she was on the birth control shot and he could have sex with her with no condom. He did, and now she is pregnant. She has told him her family took her to get the shot and her family that he took her to get it. At this point it looks like no shot was gotten. He found out she had done this to two other guys right before him but he is the first one who got her pregnant. The other males were his friend and a casual encounter from a dating site. She wants to keep the baby, he doesn't. He would prefer abortion or adoption, but has accepted that he might be paying child support for the next 18 years and intends to have no contact with the child and only contact her in court if necessary. He is 22 and she is 23. The girl is literally crazy and it seems like she is doing this on purpose. Does he have any legal recourse or has she ruined his life?
    doubtful, but he dug his own grave by taking the girl´s word on the issue and not continueing to use a condom. but levaing that aside even the most fool proof anticontraception methods are not 100% secure, so the consequence should have already been seen.
     
  7. LA Guy

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    Yeah, not much in terms of legal precedent, but depending on the state/country he might be able to fight it with testament from the other guys. No judge would actually force a guy to pay child support if it was clear he was tricked into it. Essentially most judge/jury would say "You want a baby, you gotta pay for it bitch!"
    No way man. You gotta pay, unless you were actually raped. Edit: Yeah, your friend is a jackass. And if he really doesn't want any contact with the kid, I'd have to say that he is a scumbag as well. I mean, no matter how it happened, that's his flesh and blood. I have no respect for guys that won't take care of their own.
     
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    If he didn't want a kid he should have worn a condom. What's he's describing is probably responsible for 1/4 of the children on earth. What a jackass. And no, he'll get nowhere in court.
     
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    Caveat emptor.

    And 18 years is a best-case scenario. In many states it's 19, even 21, and in many others he's on the hook until the kid graduates college.
     
  10. JayJay

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    No judge would actually force a guy to pay child support if it was clear he was tricked into it. Essentially most judge/jury would say "You want a baby, you gotta pay for it bitch!"
    Not here in the states. The judge will force him to pay in the U.S.
     
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    Caveat emptor.

    Illegitimi non carborundum is unfortunately more on point...
     
  12. Thomas

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    Actually, I may have to ask someone I know. She got pregnant and wanted to keep the baby. Her then-shag-partner was not interested at all in having a child, and - as I understand it - relinquished his parental rights. I don't believe she gets any child support, but I am very uncertain of the terms of this deal. It may well be that she kicked her then-shag-partner to the curb and said -"fine - he's all mine - sign this and fuck off forever."

    As you might imagine, I've not pressed her for the details.
     
  13. dl20

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    She wants to keep the baby, he doesn't. He would prefer abortion or adoption


    That sucks. I can already see this kids life 20 yrs down the road and hes prolly 2mm tall right about now.

    Very sad and yes, your friend is a loser/jakass

    dl
     
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    If he didn't want a kid he shouldn't have had sex.

    FTFY. We all take a chance on our number being up every time we bust a nut, no matter how cautious we might think we're being.

    Tonsils are the only foolproof birth control.
     
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    I aint gonna rag on your friend. This could happen to any guy.

    You take the bitches word for it, fall in love, and bam. Duped. And whats she get? A nice payday.

    Gotta follow the Leykis 101 Hail Mary approach on this:
    - Telll her he loves her and wants to be with her forever, blah blah
    - Talk about how he wants a family really bad but its not in the best interest of the child or their family to have him so young
    - You want to have a house, white picket fence and all that
    - Convince her this is the way to do it and that you'll wait for her once SHE gets HER career established and has achieved her dreams
    - Take her to the clinic and get that shit sucked out
    - Go to mcdonalds afterwards and get her an egg mcmuffin
    - DUMP THAT BITCH and count your lucky stars
     
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    Crazy bitches.


    Damn it.
     
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    I think this really, really sucks for your friend, and I feel bad for him. That said, he's an adult, and the possibility of having a child, even if it's a result of failed birth control, should have been something he considered. I think it's despicable that he's willing to walk out on his own child. This girl did something very wrong, but that doesn't make it OK for him to respond in kind. That (future) child doesn't deserve being raised without a father.
     
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    Actually, I may have to ask someone I know. She got pregnant and wanted to keep the baby. Her then-shag-partner was not interested at all in having a child, and - as I understand it - relinquished his parental rights. I don't believe she gets any child support, but I am very uncertain of the terms of this deal. It may well be that she kicked her then-shag-partner to the curb and said -"fine - he's all mine - sign this and fuck off forever."

    As you might imagine, I've not pressed her for the details.


    I've done this for some clients, but the relinquishment needs to be voluntary by both parents. This means she'd have to consent to him walking away as well.

    Alternatively he could go to prison for the next 18 years. Courts will sometimes involuntarily terminate parental rights if the person is in prison for such an extended term.

    Also, make sure he demands a paternity test. They aren't married so there's no presumption of paternity. It might cost him a thousand bucks or so but if there's even a chance it might not be his now is the time to find out. If she pops out the kid, he starts paying, and then ten years from now finds out it's not his he could still be on the hook. Find out now.
     
  20. Ataturk

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    Not my area of expertise, but it seems very unlikely based on what I know of domestic law in my state that a court would terminate parental rights unless the man is a complete bum or the woman has lined up someone else to take his place (i.e., adoption). How do you argue it's in junior's best interest to be without a father or 17% of his income?
     

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