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Posting same topic here and on AAAC forums??

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Casanova White, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Jeff Naylor

    Jeff Naylor Senior member

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    Anent Cruiser, you've got to hand to the guy. By sheer obnoxiousness and dogged pertinacity (abetted by tolerant or actually sympathetic moderators), he has single-handedly done a great deal to change the tenor of a forum with 14,000 (or whatever) members...although not for the better, I fear.

    He doesn't even need to actually post anymore. He could just type "Standard Cruiser Post" because we all know precisely what he's going to say anyway.

    The man doesn't like men's clothes, why he spends so much time on a forum dedicated to the subject is anybody's guess.
     
  2. AlanC

    AlanC Senior member

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    You know, once they find out about this thread over there we are going to be in trouble...

    Maybe no one will tell them. [​IMG]
     
  3. YoungFogey

    YoungFogey Senior member

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    I was a very active member of AAAC for about four years. I learnt a ton and even made a few friends through the site. I got to about a thousand posts and stopped because of some changes to my life, but the other day I poked my head in there again for the first time in over a year.

    The place had definitely changed. What were omnious signs a year ago have indeed consumed the site. For instance, although I am more a Savile Row guy, I appreciated the Trad forum. I do believe that it has done more to "codify" the Ivy League style than any place else, and I think that the forum has raised the profile of traditional American clothing among stylists and advertisers (which then gets filtered to the public as a whole). However, the trad forum then became populated with people who were looking for the "trad lifestyle". Ironically, as much as they eschwed Ralph Lauren, they had bought into his advertising.

    Another problem: people who had no experience of gentlemen's clubs thought it was a "club of gentlemen". It thereby became a parody of such a thing. Like the depiction of the Philadelphia Club in Trading Places.

    Heavy-handed (and not entirely even-handed) moderation also drove a good portion of the more free-thinking away, IMHO.

    I miss the old AAAC. It had some of the best educated people on any of the "fora". It had a great trans-Atlantic membership that not only liked traditional clothing, but was also interested in the culture that surrounded it and how that culture related to the modern world. The threads on formal wear (though they could get overly proscriptive) were fantastic. For instance: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...ad.php?t=65697

    I think I may revive my old AAAC moniker here (even though half of my posts there were wiped out at some point last year). It's still unclaimed and a few folk from the old days who may remember now seem happily ensconced here.
     
  4. Sator

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  5. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was a very active member of AAAC for about four years. I learnt a ton and even made a few friends through the site. I got to about a thousand posts and stopped because of some changes to my life, but the other day I poked my head in there again for the first time in over a year.

    The place had definitely changed. What were omnious signs a year ago have indeed consumed the site. For instance, although I am more a Savile Row guy, I appreciated the Trad forum. I do believe that it has done more to "codify" the Ivy League style than any place else, and I think that the forum has raised the profile of traditional American clothing among stylists and advertisers (which then gets filtered to the public as a whole). However, the trad forum then became populated with people who were looking for the "trad lifestyle". Ironically, as much as they eschwed Ralph Lauren, they had bought into his advertising.

    Another problem: people who had no experience of gentlemen's clubs thought it was a "club of gentlemen". It thereby became a parody of such a thing. Like the depiction of the Philadelphia Club in Trading Places.

    Heavy-handed (and not entirely even-handed) moderation also drove a good portion of the more free-thinking away, IMHO.

    I miss the old AAAC. It had some of the best educated people on any of the "fora". It had a great trans-Atlantic membership that not only liked traditional clothing, but was also interested in the culture that surrounded it and how that culture related to the modern world. The threads on formal wear (though they could get overly proscriptive) were fantastic. For instance: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...ad.php?t=65697

    I think I may revive my old AAAC moniker here (even though half of my posts there were wiped out at some point last year). It's still unclaimed and a few folk from the old days who may remember now seem happily ensconced here.

    I think the Trad forum on Ask Andy occupies a useful niche and I hope it continues to thrive. Its interest level to me waxes and wanes, but I like the fact that it exists and is a great lace whenever I am interested in one of the things that fit in the trad canon. I suppose the main forum also occupies a useful spot though its place is different than it had been. There is really no reason why SF and AAAC have to have the same focus and with the nearly complete migration of the topics discussion I am interested in over to here, I am perfectly happy to have one less place to check.
     
  6. RJman

    RJman Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was a very active member of AAAC for about four years. I learnt a ton and even made a few friends through the site. I got to about a thousand posts and stopped because of some changes to my life, but the other day I poked my head in there again for the first time in over a year.

    The place had definitely changed. What were omnious signs a year ago have indeed consumed the site. For instance, although I am more a Savile Row guy, I appreciated the Trad forum. I do believe that it has done more to "codify" the Ivy League style than any place else, and I think that the forum has raised the profile of traditional American clothing among stylists and advertisers (which then gets filtered to the public as a whole). However, the trad forum then became populated with people who were looking for the "trad lifestyle". Ironically, as much as they eschwed Ralph Lauren, they had bought into his advertising.

    Another problem: people who had no experience of gentlemen's clubs thought it was a "club of gentlemen". It thereby became a parody of such a thing. Like the depiction of the Philadelphia Club in Trading Places.

    Heavy-handed (and not entirely even-handed) moderation also drove a good portion of the more free-thinking away, IMHO.

    I miss the old AAAC. It had some of the best educated people on any of the "fora". It had a great trans-Atlantic membership that not only liked traditional clothing, but was also interested in the culture that surrounded it and how that culture related to the modern world. The threads on formal wear (though they could get overly proscriptive) were fantastic. For instance: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...ad.php?t=65697

    I think I may revive my old AAAC moniker here (even though half of my posts there were wiped out at some point last year). It's still unclaimed and a few folk from the old days who may remember now seem happily ensconced here.


    I think there was some sort of data loss that wiped out a lot of people's posts.

    When you say "best educated", do you mean about clothes or generally? I have heard that FNB has a "more advanced" forum.
     
  7. YoungFogey

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    I think there was some sort of data loss that wiped out a lot of people's posts.

    When you say "best educated", do you mean about clothes or generally? I have heard that FNB has a "more advanced" forum.


    The participants at AAAC seemed better educated generally and more knowledgeable about English and American clothing and the culture behind it. The posters at SF in those days were MUCH better informed about high end Italian and Continental clothing -- which makes sense as the demographic here seems rather younger and more fashionable. SF has always blown AAAC away on shoes.
     
  8. crazyquik

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    I hadn't noticed this happened at AAAC, but at the same time I'm not as interested in the Fashion Forum. The topics just don't seem as interesting as they used to.

    I still check the trad forum a few times a day and post as well. It really seems a bit more interested in the clothes and actively seeking out brands and makers than the Fashion Forum.
     
  9. LabelKing

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    I think Styleforum also has AAAC blown away on discussions on narwhal tusks and other assorted exotica.

    AAAC has become the forum equivalent of a Jos A.Banks clearance
     
  10. Manton

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    AAAC has become the forum equivalent of a Jos A.Banks clearance

    In that case, can we convince Kasper and all his sock puppets to go over there? Sound like it would be perfect for him.
     
  11. Film Noir Buff

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    I think there was some sort of data loss that wiped out a lot of people's posts.

    When you say "best educated", do you mean about clothes or generally? I have heard that FNB has a "more advanced" forum.


    Well we dont have most of the bespoke brotherhood like some forums but we try to keep the conversation stimulating.[​IMG]
     
  12. unpainted huffheinz

    unpainted huffheinz Senior member

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    Anyone else use a different name on each forum?
     
  13. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Anyone else use a different name on each forum?

    I use different names in each forum, but use them consistently.
     
  14. Orsini

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    ...The man doesn't like men's clothes, why he spends so much time on a forum dedicated to the subject is anybody's guess.
    Yes, yes, and yes!
     
  15. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    Maybe no one will tell them. [​IMG]
    Oh, oh! Too late!
     
  16. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    ...half of my posts there were wiped out at some point last year...
    There was system problem that clobbered the counts and in spite of considerable effort by the technoids I do not believe it was all restored. It did not really effect me as I had not actually posted there yet -- I went almost five months before I made a post...
     
  17. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Maybe no one will tell them. [​IMG]

    I imagine the moderators at AAAC are looking at this thread and discussing whether or not the sentiment expressed in this represents something that they should be concerned about or not and if it does, is there anything that can be done about it.

    The fact that AAAC is less interesting to a group that used to find it interesting isn't necessarily a problem. A forum that shifts focus and membership can still be perfectly healthy. It doesn't have to stay the same.
     
  18. Orsini

    Orsini Senior member

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    Just for interest's sake I have cross posted a new thread here and at AAAC. Part of the reason for doing so was to see what the qualitative difference between the two parallel threads would be. Take a look and decide for yourself: http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...ad.php?t=81610 http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=62637 If anything I gave the AAAC thread a running start. It started a few minutes before I cross posted on SF.
    This should be interesting...
     
  19. Sator

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    The fact that AAAC is less interesting to a group that used to find it interesting isn't necessarily a problem. A forum that shifts focus and membership can still be perfectly healthy. It doesn't have to stay the same.


    Fair enough but there is evolution vs devolution.

    Take a look now at how my parallel threads are doing:

    http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/f...ad.php?t=81610
    http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=62637

    The SF thread has over twice the number of pages. The only really high post count members to have contributed to the AAAC thread are the moderators (AK, ME), WA, and Concordia. Medwards had to modify the title of the thread to save it from total cruiserification.
     
  20. EL72

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    I imagine the moderator at AAAC is looking at this thread and discussing whether or not the sentiment expressed in this represents something that he should be concerned about or not and if it does, is there anything that can be done about it.

    I doubt it.

    The fact that AAAC is less interesting to a group that used to find it interesting isn't necessarily a problem. A forum that shifts focus and membership can still be perfectly healthy. It doesn't have to stay the same.

    I agree with this.
     

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