Posted for a new member: B&S best practices and How-To?

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  1. j

    j (stands for Jerk) Admin

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    Hey all,

    I got this in my email from a new member and thought maybe someone who is up to date on the Paypal/B&S safety practices could give him a quick tutorial on how a proper B&S transaction is supposed to go down. It's been a while since I've sold anything and Paypal policies change from time to time, so I didn't want to give him any outdated info. Can anyone help?

    Thanks,
    J.


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  2. Sentinel

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    Not that I've bought or sold a lot of items on B&S, but that's pretty much the way it works on every forum I've been on.

    Agree on price, shipping methods, etc in PMs, seller sends they buyer the PayPal info, buyer pays the seller, the seller ships it out, and the buyer sends the seller a quick PM when it arrives out of courtesy.

    The buyer should always make the payment "for goods/services" and the seller should ship with at least delivery confirmation so they both get some PayPal protection.
     


  3. sportin_life

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    I have mostly purchased (and only sold a couple things) on these forums so far.

    1. As above, I only pay "for goods" and always link the forum thread as protection, then add 4% onto payment to cover fees for the seller. I think sending payment as "personal payment' is risky unless the seller is well-established, and that 4% should be worth it for peace of mind.

    2. For the seller, shipping with insurance and delivery confirmation are essential since paypal can and will side with the buyer in most transactions if there is any question. It is worthwhile to have confirmation of delivery and the insurance is so USPS/UPS doesn't destroy whatever is inside the package.
     
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    You add 4% regardless of whether they ask for it?
     


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  6. davesmith

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    Is that '4%' a charge that paypal asks for as insurance or something?
     


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    The 4% is taken away from the total amount of money that the seller receives if the transaction if not a personal payment (gift). Some buyers are willing to pay the fees as a gesture. It is by no means an obligation.
     


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    Yeah, I don't like when sellers put: "personal payment or add 4%" as if the buyer should be responsible for the fees. If you don't want to pay the 4% fees, then increase the price by that much. It looks pretty petty when you ask them to add the fees back into the payment.
     


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    You still have the option to pay the listed price, but if you want the reassurance of the extra security, you can pay a 4% premium for it.

    There have been enough stories on here about sellers getting dicked over (usually on e-bay, but still) that I sure as hell ain't gonna begrudge them that one. That said, when I sell, I don't usually care either way. I'm not trying to actually make serious money, just a side buck or two passing stuff on to people who'll appreciate and use it.
     
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  11. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I think J was speaking more generally about how to conduct a sale on B&S, not paypal law really...


    So, for your new member, here are the current "rules" of B&S :

    For terms of protecting yourself as a seller, remember :

    - You CANNOT request personal payment via PayPal on StyleForum... see rule 7 above
    - For shipments valued at over $250, always use signature requirement as you will lose any paypal claim without a signature confirmation above that value
    - For international shipments over $250, use Express mail as Priority mail does not have signature tracking (therefore you will lose a claim)
    - 1st class shipping has no tracking (international)
    - Always describe your item clearly, use measurements and clear photos, and state your terms of sale up front in your listing.

    Good luck, mystery dude, with your sales.
     


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