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Post Undergrad Sob Story, any advice?

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by ethanm, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. mcbrown

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    Mostly a hunch. I've always been a pretty big reader and actually read monographs in my spare time.

    Internships mostly require you to be a student so they don't have to pay you. I have no idea what I would do at a bank, I'm not a natural salesman and I don't know a thing about finance.
     
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    Check the IB thread for more on Investment banking advice.

    Retail banking is always hiring esp mortgage banking. A loan officer (sales) is pretty easy if you want to venture out of your comfort zone and get some sales experience. Commission, but easy in the current environment. With mortgage rates at record lows, also low priced homes and foreclosures, it's pretty easy to get purchases. Even easier is refinances, esp for the underwater people. With Obama, you can refinance almost anything as long as the person has been paying their mortgage. Can go to closing within a month.

    If you don't want to do sales, all those loans need processors, closers, managers, underwrriters, then also auditors and compliance.
     
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    Be willing to move. Your first job probably isn't going to be the one that you stick with for the rest of your life. Get a job elsewhere in the United States then upgrade to a big city or major publisher. If the job takes you to Wyoming, go to Wyoming for a few years to get experience. Then move up.
     
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    What is it exactly you want to actually do? What do you want your work day to be like? You say you want to work in academic publishing. Does that mean you want to be a janitor in their office building, be their book-keeper, rep textbooks door to door at nearby colleges?
     
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    EMartNJ you went to school in Pton? By any chance you're a fellow Tiger? I'm class of '09 ;)! And I don't mean to sound snobbish but if you are indeed a Tiger, it shouldn't be too hard to get a (at least temporary) job no? I know a lot of Princetonians do banking upon graduation but there are so many other options beyond that. And as Claghorn said - "Be willing to move. Your first job probably isn't going to be the one that you stick with for the rest of your life. Get a job elsewhere in the United States then upgrade to a big city or major publisher" - so why don't you move even further? Have you ever considered programs like Princeton in Asia (You don't need to be a Princetonian by the way)? Or else, maybe do Teach for America? Many big firms love to recruit TfA alums. Get some work experience first and then use that first job as a stepping stone to move forward.
     
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    I just grew up here. I'm sure I would have a job by now with a degree from Princeton. Teach For America is a bullshit organization, by the way.
     
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    Where did you go to school? What was your GPA?
     
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    I have a lot of friends that went did tfa, and split opinions on how much it actually helps schools aside, it was a leg up for them in applying to grad school and/or jobs. It's also a job for 2 years, if you can get it.
     
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    I'm fundamentally opposed to the program. It's like putting a Band-aid on a broken bone.

    For those wondering about school I went to WVU because I slacked off in high school. Graduated with a 3.5.
     
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    WVU has an absolutely massive alumni network and has excellent name recognition in WV, VA, MD and DC. Why aren't you using these resources? A 3.5 isn't anything to be ashamed of.

    Edit: I don't know why I'm doing this work for you, because you're coming off as kind of dickish, but...

    http://alumni.wvu.edu/groups/chapters

    New Jersey

    Garden State Chapter
    Tom Stack
    381 Skyline Lakes Drive
    Ringwood, NJ 07456
    717.575.5490
    gardenstatewvu@gmail.com
    Join us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126868954449

    Jersey Shore
    Brian Baldasare
    732-449-4818
    Rt34brian@aol.com
    Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jersey-Shore-WVU-Alumni/169042949853642

    Liberty Bell
    Ed McMahon
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    president@wvulibertybell.com
    wvu-libertybellalumni@comcast.net
    facebook: WVU Alumni Liberty Bell Chapter
    http://www.wvulibertybell.com

    NY/NJ Metro
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    888 Main Street, #437
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    I'm not helping because your team beat my Longhorns.
     
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    ^No worries, my friend. I'm a New York Giants fan, which probably precludes me as well! I didn't go to the 2007 WVU Pitt game that would have landed WVU in the championship game because it was raining.

    I never reached out to an alumni organization because I never fit in at WVU so I figure I wouldn't fit in with WVU away from WVU. Like I said, I'm a little reclusive.
     
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    Being reclusive is going to keep you from getting a job. Networking is the number one way to get a job. Start doing it now.
     
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    Seriously at every step in this thread you've basically said you're unwilling to do what anyone is suggesting. You don't want to reach out to alumni, you don't want to work outside a specific field that you think you'd like, etc.

    Have you looked up certificate/graduate programs for publishing?

    Have you looked up local publishing firms which you might be able to intern at?

    Have you contacted your local University's academic press?

    http://press.princeton.edu/
    Princeton University Press, 41 William Street, Princeton, New Jersey 08540 USA

    Here's their entire staff list. Are you calling these people?

    People always talk about how a liberal arts degree is so useless, but to me it's not the degree, it's the sense of entitlement and laziness...
     
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    This thread is pissing me off. I'm tempted to pick up the phone and get you a fucking internship for you.
     
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    Teger, OP didn't go to Princeton he went to WVU. Now go back and find him resources there.
     

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