Fact: Lobb boat shoes are pretentious. Here are mine: But, if you were them sailing a Melges 24, while others wear their IndoChinese Sperry's drinking 1900 calorie coffees at Starb*cks, are the Lobbs redeemed? Note: I'm wearing the flesh-colored socks again. - B Lobbs are redeemed as long as you are not drinking Kopi Luwak. I appreciate the fervor with which you ahve approached this thread.