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Portugese and Spanish shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Donald, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. Champagnelifestylenomoney

    Champagnelifestylenomoney Senior member

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    Own a very nice pair of black calf Carmina loafers, which appear to be made of very high quality calf (thicker than say church's masterclass). Construction seems very good- bevelled sole but open stitch channel rather than closed channel. Can heartily recommend the calf despite the company perhaps being more well known for their cordovan shoes.
     
  2. economiayocio

    economiayocio Senior member

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    Besides the pictures posted, I have reviews of all of them in my blog, just in case anyone is interested in watching more pictures. Also, today i reviewed one of their shops with pictures of many of the shoes. Hope you like it.

    An appetizer...

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. mike2100

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    About Portuguese shoes: It was already mentioned here about Carlos Santos. Zarco company is probably the best shoe handcrafted in Portugal. I recommend also Profession Bottier and De Gier. I am not sure but loding, emling and bowen brands are produced also in Portugal from Zarco. For all interested about this sector in Portugal I invite you to visit my blog. http://lusitanaehabilitas.blogspot.c...dustry-in.html Tudo de bom! all the best Mike
     
  5. mike2100

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    Like I said in my last post, Zarco is one of the best and biggest Portuguese manufacturers for luxury shoes. They export 99% of their production and they have 3 own brands: http://www.mackjames.com/ http://www.carlossantos.eu/1.aspx and Star Label http://www.la-botte.com/4DCGI/PromoM...0LABEL/Homme/1 Then they produce for others brands like : http://www.altanbottier.com/3.aspx http://www.emling.fr/en/the_7_gold_rules# http://www.markowski-chausseur.fr/ http://www.bowen-shoes.com/ http://www.loding.fr/ Maybe they work for more brands but my research discovered only these ones. A curiosity : Carlos Santos brand sell some very exclusive and unique pairs for about 3000 euros. And some more Portuguese brands are: http://www.professionbottier.com/default.htm http://www.degier1935.com/ broken link now but working some weeks ago. http://www.marianoshoes.com/ http://www.nunescorrea.pt/Sapatos http://www.sarenza.co.uk/brett-sons http://www.armandosilva.pt/engine.php?cat=1 http://www.centenario.com.pt/index_en.htm this brand besides leather and crocodile shoes, has also from eel, ostrich and ray. More recently brands like: http://www.luisonofre.com/ and http://www.miguelvieira.pt/ shows that Portugal have designers and not only good working force. I am sure that I am missing some more brands and I am posting only about this type of shoes. I have a blog where I am showing some of the best from Portugal, including brands, companies, technology, innovation, culture, music and so on. If you like to know all regarding these issues, you are inviting to follow me. I think you guys will have now a better idea about these shoes made from Portugal, some more hand-made than others but with good quality and I will not reply about some comments I read in this thread. Carpe Diem!! Other curiosity about other Portuguese brand is related to http://www.swear-london.com/shopping/sale/items.aspx this brand belongs to a nice concept with other brands and stores and President Obama...... "read the story" ;-) http://translate.google.pt/translate...p%3Fid%3D24134 all the best Mike
     
  6. economiayocio

    economiayocio Senior member

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    I dont think this kind of obvious brand promotion is proper in this type of forum.

    It is obvious you believe Carmina shoes are very good. Your point is taken, and if you have some for sale please put them on the B&S thread but this is not an advertising board.

    I believe that if you persist it in such an obvious display of single brand promotion it will actually backfire on you/brand

    of course this is just one man's opinion


    I didn't see this post in the past.

    I have a collection of over 60 different pairs. EG, G&G, C&J, Alden and yes, Carmina. I have more EG and C&J than Carmina's. You can check that on the reviews of my blog.

    I defend Carmina because it is the only one being questioned here. Just for that. It is an excellent brand, but as many other top ones. I wouldn't say it tops EG or G&G, because they don't.

    I was just promoting and defending my country, because it is a fact that Carmina is a good brand, and many people from SF love it. Being me one of them.

    I don't think there is any harm or promotion on showing pictures and trying to help people who are interested.

    By the way, I have never sold any shoes in here, so you should check before pointing accusations. That is not good.

    I can't understand why showing my collection of this brand, which is not so easy to buy depending on where you live, would do any harm or "backfire" me. That is not an opion, it is an absurd acusation not based in facts.

    Regards.
     
  7. Dexx

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    What do you think of Sendra and Sancho boots?
     
  8. Pliny

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    I didn't see this post in the past.

    I have a collection of over 60 different pairs. EG, G&G, C&J, Alden and yes, Carmina. I have more EG and C&J than Carmina's. You can check that on the reviews of my blog.

    I defend Carmina because it is the only one being questioned here. Just for that. It is an excellent brand, but as many other top ones. I wouldn't say it tops EG or G&G, because they don't.


    Regards.


    Thanks economiayocio, great posts! I have read your blog in translation (Babelfish is pretty terrible but the best i have access to) and enjoyed it very much.

    re: 'promotion of Carmina' - I don't think it's inappropriate. I can vouch that Economiayocio discusses a lot of other brands on his blog. There is a memorable account of his trip to Budapest to visit Laszlo Vass, with some great pics. Economiayocio is a shoe-phile, like most of us, and appreciates quality artisanship. It's not about promoting any particular business interest.
     
  9. Lusitano

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    I didn't see this post in the past. I have a collection of over 60 different pairs. EG, G&G, C&J, Alden and yes, Carmina. I have more EG and C&J than Carmina's. You can check that on the reviews of my blog. I defend Carmina because it is the only one being questioned here. Just for that. It is an excellent brand, but as many other top ones. I wouldn't say it tops EG or G&G, because they don't. I was just promoting and defending my country, because it is a fact that Carmina is a good brand, and many people from SF love it. Being me one of them. I don't think there is any harm or promotion on showing pictures and trying to help people who are interested. By the way, I have never sold any shoes in here, so you should check before pointing accusations. That is not good. I can't understand why showing my collection of this brand, which is not so easy to buy depending on where you live, would do any harm or "backfire" me. That is not an opion, it is an absurd acusation not based in facts. Regards.
    I don't see any harm in what economiayocio has posted so far, he's a shoe afficionado with a very remarkable collection, thus not different to other posters with the same passion. Furthermore his words sound like respect and appreciation for a well regarded manufacturer(flavoured with a bit of patriotic pride), not like marketing bullshit.
     
  10. NORE

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    ^^^seconded.
     
  11. mike2100

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    I don't understand how can someone being accused of marketing in a forum where we talk about brands. I am new in this forum and I only posted here about my research I've done in this Portuguese sector.
    I am doing the same in several others forums to talk about technology, shipbuilding, software and so on, everyone talks about names and brands, I am only linking all them.

    Please people, if my posts are marketing, so the administrator should delete them.

    This thread is to talk about Portuguese and Spanish shoes, and I've done it at my way.



    cheeers people, I will keep an eye on this forum, very nice and recently discovered by me.
    If anyone needs to know something about Portuguese stuff, just e-mail me.

    all the best
    Mike
     
  12. epa

    epa Senior member

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    I didn't see this post in the past.

    I have a collection of over 60 different pairs. EG, G&G, C&J, Alden and yes, Carmina. I have more EG and C&J than Carmina's. You can check that on the reviews of my blog.

    I defend Carmina because it is the only one being questioned here. Just for that. It is an excellent brand, but as many other top ones. I wouldn't say it tops EG or G&G, because they don't.

    I was just promoting and defending my country, because it is a fact that Carmina is a good brand, and many people from SF love it. Being me one of them.

    I don't think there is any harm or promotion on showing pictures and trying to help people who are interested.

    By the way, I have never sold any shoes in here, so you should check before pointing accusations. That is not good.

    I can't understand why showing my collection of this brand, which is not so easy to buy depending on where you live, would do any harm or "backfire" me. That is not an opion, it is an absurd acusation not based in facts.

    Regards.

    Obviously there is no harm in showing pictures. I don't understand how someone can make fuzz about this. This forum is full of pictures, and many threads are useless without pictures. Thanks for the pics!
    Just a question (which does not really correspond to this thread but I put it here it because I think that some of those following the thread may know what I am after): where in Madrid can you buy EG shoes nowadays? They used to have them at Excerez but they seem to have closed (both the airport and the Claudio Coello shops).
     
  13. Madrileno

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    Obviously there is no harm in showing pictures. I don't understand how someone can make fuzz about this. This forum is full of pictures, and many threads are useless without pictures. Thanks for the pics!
    Just a question (which does not really correspond to this thread but I put it here it because I think that some of those following the thread may know what I am after): where in Madrid can you buy EG shoes nowadays? They used to have them at Excerez but they seem to have closed (both the airport and the Claudio Coello shops).


    Hi EPA, you can get EG shoes at Yusti (if I recall correctly, they are now 15% off). The other place where they have a few is in Echegaray (I'm not sure about the name, I always mix it up), they have a store at the beginning of Paseo de la Habana a bit further down than the Vips, on the same side of the street, it is the store with the windows framed in a red/burgundy colour. They have another store close by in Castellana, but they do not have all the shoe brands that they have in the Paseo de la Habana store.
     
  14. economiayocio

    economiayocio Senior member

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    Hi EPA, you can get EG shoes at Yusti (if I recall correctly, they are now 15% off). The other place where they have a few is in Echegaray (I'm not sure about the name, I always mix it up), they have a store at the beginning of Paseo de la Habana a bit further down than the Vips, on the same side of the street, it is the store with the windows framed in a red/burgundy colour. They have another store close by in Castellana, but they do not have all the shoe brands that they have in the Paseo de la Habana store.

    The shop you are mentioning EchevarrÃa. I guess they will also have some sales.

    On Exerez, it just moved and changed names. Now is called Perch & Cro, and is in Lagasca, but close to Villanueva. They have now 20% off C&J shoes as I heard.

    Thanks for your support guys.

    Kind regards,

    Iván
     
  15. epa

    epa Senior member

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    The shop you are mentioning EchevarrÃa. I guess they will also have some sales.

    On Exerez, it just moved and changed names. Now is called Perch & Cro, and is in Lagasca, but close to Villanueva. They have now 20% off C&J shoes as I heard.

    Thanks for your support guys.

    Kind regards,

    Iván


    Thanks. I didn't know they moved. Isn't that new address close to Lubna (I think that is the name), one of the other few stores having nice shoes like Santoni? Does Perch & Cro. have the same brands (including Santoni) as Excerez used to have, or just C&J? Well, I do not have to ask this here, I will try to drop by one of these days.
    EchevarrÃa, isn't that a tailor's store?
     
  16. economiayocio

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    Thanks. I didn't know they moved. Isn't that new address close to Lubna (I think that is the name), one of the other few stores having nice shoes like Santoni? Does Perch & Cro. have the same brands (including Santoni) as Excerez used to have, or just C&J? Well, I do not have to ask this here, I will try to drop by one of these days.
    EchevarrÃa, isn't that a tailor's store?


    Exactly!! It is in front of Lubna, exactly. Lubna has 10-20% off now.

    Perch has some other brands, but mainly C&J.

    About EchevarrÃa, it is a taylor and a shop: http://www.echevarria.es/index.php?seccion=zapatos
     
  17. Madrileno

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    Exactly!! It is in front of Lubna, exactly. Lubna has 10-20% off now.

    Perch has some other brands, but mainly C&J.

    About EchevarrÃa, it is a taylor and a shop: http://www.echevarria.es/index.php?seccion=zapatos


    Talking about C&J in Madrid. I strongly recommend getting them at Tubet zapateros, they also have Santoni (and they do not have them on display, but they have some goodyear welted santonis which are some of the best shoes I ever bought) and Allen Edmonds, along with other minor brands. The owner is an expert in shoes (having worked in this area his whole life), and really loves his job, plus he loves to talk about them, and I learned a lot just by stopping by and chatting with him for a few minutes every once in a while
     
  18. economiayocio

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    Talking about C&J in Madrid. I strongly recommend getting them at Tubet zapateros, they also have Santoni (and they do not have them on display, but they have some goodyear welted santonis which are some of the best shoes I ever bought) and Allen Edmonds, along with other minor brands. The owner is an expert in shoes (having worked in this area his whole life), and really loves his job, plus he loves to talk about them, and I learned a lot just by stopping by and chatting with him for a few minutes every once in a while

    I totally agree. Miguel Tubet is a great salesperson and an even better person.
     
  19. epa

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    I totally agree. Miguel Tubet is a great salesperson and an even better person.

    Where is this shop located? I never heard of it.
     
  20. economiayocio

    economiayocio Senior member

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    Where is this shop located? I never heard of it.

    Nuñez de Balboa, almost with Goya, Check it in google maps.

    It is very good and they are having some discounts.
     

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