That must be one of the greatest jokes ever. If I remember anything useful my mother told me was that Spanish shoes were crappier than Portuguese shoes. Granted that was many years ago and she was biased but I have not seen any sight of any good Spanish shoes since. It is true that sadly Portuguese shoes have not gotten better. But that is what happens when your market is "a" Europe with high taxes on non-European goods and your strength is a very low paid worker (in western Euro terms) , and then shit happens -like WTO agreements with China etc. In any case if you can, choose Portuguese shoes as they are at least made in a country with much nicer people that Spain, where the noise levels are non-compatible with civilised conversation- and I don't mean in the shoe factories PS-Never, ever buy shoes by Zara and or Massimo Dutti (Zara's "black label", which of course has an Italian name) ThatÂ´s a great new criterion... buying things based on stereotypes... In that case I wonÂ´t buy things made in Germany, because most of them are squareheaded Hitler nostalgics, or in Sweden, a country of closeted racists, or Japan, or the U.K.... P.S: The fact that you mention Zara or Massimo Dutti in this thread makes me think that you buy your suits at H&M.