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My point being here to look past the badge and into what the serial number implies in terms of manufacturing quality, standards, materials, etc. See the gradual disappearance of zaratsu from Seiko lineup. I also remember when the SKX007 was still around you could get one from Japan or from the Malaysia or Thailand factory "supervised by the Japanese" and there might even have been a price difference for this of perhaps 10-20% (maybe it was just a retailer thing).
 

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I also remember when the SKX007 was still around you could get one from Japan or from the Malaysia or Thailand factory "supervised by the Japanese" and there might even have been a price difference for this of perhaps 10-20% (maybe it was just a retailer thing).
I think you're right about that. If I recall correctly, there was a "J" in the serial number or model number that indicated this. I still have an SKX007 (though US-purchased) I bought during law school some 13-15 years ago.
 

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A really nice watch, pretty different from the usual cheap Eco-Drive Citizen.

I beg your pardon, there’s nothing cheap about the Eco-Drive. 🧐
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Speaking of Land Cruisers...

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...I'm a fan! The navy LC (FJ200) is my daily driver. You can see my FJ80 in the reflection - that's a weekend toy. I picked up the American version of the LC Prado (FJ150) last week.

Back to PMWs, I'm chasing the Land Cruiser edition of the G-shock Mudmaster to join my collection.
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Speaking of Land Cruisers...

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...I'm a fan! The navy LC (FJ200) is my daily driver. You can see my FJ80 in the reflection - that's a weekend toy. I picked up the American version of the LC Prado (FJ150) last week.

Back to PMWs, I'm chasing the Land Cruiser edition of the G-shock Mudmaster to join my collection.
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Good man! The 80 series is definitely a good toy, last real cruiser before they started making them comfortable. Here in Oz the 70 series is the ultimate toy, mostly cos they still sell them new. Parked next to a pristine FJ76 yesterday, the Cayenne next to it just looked wrong. It's amazing how cheap a used 200 series (or Lexus equivalent) can be in the US, when here they can go above MSRP by a good chunk.

I'll admit to slight bias against Prados since 1. they're not made in the Japanese LC factory to the 25 year life standards 2. they have a reputation for cracks developing on longer bush drives vs a full size but still beats a RR or equivalent city tractor. But you could argue the last generation Prados were more practical size wise, if all you're doing is camping on the weekend.

Yes I have a Toyota cap, wore it yesterday. Did not know about the LC G shock, thanks for making me buy more stuff.
 

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Sorry, I respect your opinion, but for me a watch has to be mechanical.
What makes the 0100 special is in great part the *mechanical* side of things which is how they broke through the 5spy barrier that limited both the Seiko and Citizen HAQ until then to get to 1spy. Extreme tolerances, redesigned crystal, etc. I think it's the kind of watch that belongs in a mechanical collection and a historical point of sorts.

But as Milton said
"...A mind not to be chang’d by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n."
 

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What makes the 0100 special is in great part the *mechanical* side of things which is how they broke through the 5spy barrier that limited both the Seiko and Citizen HAQ until then to get to 1spy. Extreme tolerances, redesigned crystal, etc. I think it's the kind of watch that belongs in a mechanical collection and a historical point of sorts.

But as Milton said
"...A mind not to be chang’d by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n."

Yes, call it prejudice, or mindset: I recognise the value of such hybrid movements (like the Grand Seiko Spring Drive), but they are totally unattractive to me.
 

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One of my favorite dials but doesn't get a ton of wear as it's on the dressier side.
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My Vario Versa has shipped. I love Vario you get direct contact about your order and they even sent me a photo before the mailed it along with my extras.

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I currently have 4 eco-drive watches and really can't see a problem with them. They recharge on the windowsill, are far more accurate than my mechanical tissot, they never stop and look really good. This titanium diver came with a rubber strap but I prefer it on a nato.
 

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I currently have 4 eco-drive watches and really can't see a problem with them. They recharge on the windowsill, are far more accurate than my mechanical tissot, they never stop and look really good. This titanium diver came with a rubber strap but I prefer it on a nato.
There is no problem with Eco drive. I have a couple, including a diver.

I remember when there were only mechanical watches available. Started off with a boy's manual wind Timex and then moved on to automatics. They needed regular servicing, though it was easier to find and cheaper back then. They were also less accurate.

My quartz watches are no bother at all. My radio controlled G shocks are accurate to the second.

I would never go back to mechanical watches myself, but each to their own.
 

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I currently have 4 eco-drive watches and really can't see a problem with them. They recharge on the windowsill, are far more accurate than my mechanical tissot, they never stop and look really good. This titanium diver came with a rubber strap but I prefer it on a nato.
Think different strokes different folks. Some expect handmade jewelry, and don't really care for the accuracy of watches as a whole, only those which fit that description. Some want something reliable to tell the time. Some want to explore the edges of technology (HAQ, depth rating, complications). Some want modern art as expressed within the cultural constraint of "the wrist watch". There's overlap between these groups, and the market offers options for them too, confusing things further (e.g. the Tadao Ando Octissimo - both ultrathin, and contemporary art, or at least for people who think of themselves as consumers thereof). Etc. etc.

If you're looking for jewelry or edges of tech, then most of the eco-drive range is not going to scratch that itch. Great for reliability as pointed out a few times here, that's why they sell so well, a nice alternative to the G Shock. My particular corner case for eco-drive is the Stiletto. I think a dress watch should not be ostentatious (and let's face it wearing some logos is ostentatious regardless of the design) so I end up wearing the (somewhat large) minimalist Stiletto for those occasions, it matches a minimum of finishing (sapphire glass, very thin), and the eco-drive means not worrying about setting it or maintaining it. I used to enjoy HMTs ($10 shipped) for the same purpose but they are really spectacularly unreliable esp as you can no longer buy them new.
 

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