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Poor man's watch thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SirGrotius, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. Lumaca

    Lumaca Senior Member

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    As a Laco owner (bought dirt cheap used, sturdy Japanese movement) I feel like it was a great watch worth every penny.

    It's just that eventually you'll outgrow it and start looking for something more... refined. No phantom date setting perhaps, better lume maybe, thinner case definitely!

    Speaking of fliegers and pilot watch in general, I find it ironic that IWC are releasing the Spitfire collection which is basically a german pilot's watch with a british fighter plane's name on the dial.
     

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    I agree with this, if a Stowa is anywhere near the budget. A nicer watch and better investment than a Speedbird, MKII, or Laco imo. I have a Stowa MO; it is beautiful and worth every penny.

    One caveat on the Stowa Pilots, though: the newer ones (I mean since Jorg Schauer re-established the brand, I think) use a font with an open "4", which I personally do not like (just a pet peeve, they are also as historically legitimate as closed "4"s, I think). I have seen some older Stowa Pilot/Fliegers on eBay with a closed "4", but not often.
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    Well stated regarding Laco, etc.

    IWC Spitfires are truly hideous imo; and the Mark XV is one of my favorite watch designs of all time. They ruined it, after the XV.
     

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    It's historically correct to put the Spitfire on top of the German machinery.
     

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    @am55 ... Adolf Galland would agree with you.
    Rumors have that, during Battle of England, when an angry Goering asked him "so what you need to overcome the Brits ??" Galland answered "a squadron of Spitfires!"

    Anyway I too think that putting a Spitfire on a German watch is kind of an oxymoron ...
     

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    Thanks for the input, guys. As much as I love the German fliegers, I really have my heart set on an allied Cold War style pilot watch, next. Well, that or the Smiths 29b with the bigger case.

    Someday that might be an IWC mkXV, but I know my wife is trying to figure out what to give me for our 10th anniversary next month. I'm thinking I'll drop a hint that the new no-logo Speedbird is pretty nice.
     

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    Ironic that the vintage Seiko I was about to strap on this morning would have blown a massive hole through the PMW ceiling, but this one does not.

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    I had an MKII Hawkinge since its introduction and while I really liked it at first I ended up selling it a few weeks ago as I decided I didn't like the fit of it. It's a great looking watch but it sat incredibly high on my wrist thanks to it's very flat backside (add a nice NATO under it and it made it even worse). Comparing the measurements between the MKII and the Speedbird, it looks like the Speedbird is only about 1mm thinner but sometimes that small of a difference can be enough.

    If the measurements of the MKII work for you, the fit and finish on the Hawkinge was fantastic and I never had any complaints about the Seiko movement in it. They can be had relatively inexpensively on the secondhand market.
     

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    B and M

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    Since the last couple of pages have touched on IWC Mark XV "homages" and other PMW pilot watches, another brand to consider might be Dekla.

    I have no direct experience with this brand, but the movements are good, the designs look good, the prices are good, and they have received positive reviews on WUS.

    https://deklawatches.com/en/dekla

    https://www.watchuseek.com/flieger-friday-affordable-dekla-pilot-watches/

    Also, a TypeB thread I just stumbled across:
    https://forums.watchuseek.com/f8/ty...i-get-laco-stowa-dekla-archimede-4822709.html
     

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    Is the one you are considering the "Speedbird III automatic on bracelet with Sellita SW200-1 "Top" movement and PRS-1 dial"?

    That looks like a whole lot of watch, including a bracelet, for £485.00 (US $625). Solid seller too. If you want it, I would suggest moving on it soon, because TF tends not to have back-stock once they sell out, and re-issues are not guaranteed.

    Really, I think you won't go wrong with a no-logo/no-date Speedbird, or the no-date Hawkinge, but the no-logo/no-date Speedbird is indeed very appealing.

    It looks like the Smiths 39mm PRS29-B is now sold out?
     

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    Thanks @venessian

    Yes, that’s the one I’m looking at. They just restocked them yesterday after being sold-out for some time. The last round, the only option was date with no logo and ETA movement. I’ll drop a heavy hint with my wife tonight!

    The Smiths 29B sold out after a few months and won’t be back anytime soon. I’ve only seen one sell used and it wasn’t cheap. It’s a nice looking watch that is a bit dressier than most military watches. The broad arrow means a lot to me, though I haven’t owned a manual winder for so long. As a kid I always overwound and broke my cheap copy watches.
     

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    My feeling about 'Pilot Watches' is that they are the biggest (most profitable) scam in the industry after dive watches. They are basic time only things with bland printed dials that all look the same. I understand why people buy them on a vintage market, but the brand new pilot watch without any historic elements or design cues is just too basic and boring.
    At least Oris and JLC are trying to make something interesting in this vein, but the watches above are just blah.
     
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  15. city74

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    Today’s watch for a cold day

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