Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SirGrotius, Feb 4, 2011.
Glycine GL0115 - combat 6 moonphase:
Great choice Mosy! I was also going to suggest choice #1.
Tissot at sunset...
I'm as new to styleforum as I am to watches, but you have to start somewhere, so here comes my first post. This thread is the only place I belong on, being firmly of the "poor man" variety, but it sure is interesting to read of and see such a variety of affordable watches, and I'm really enjoying this thread.
In a few posts from a long way back, people were talking about Russian watches as an option, so I thought I'd throw mine into the mix. It's what is known as a "frankenwatch", because it was built from more than one movement/dial/etc, but I like it. The movement is a mix of good reliable Vostok movements combined to make it run as a 24-hour watch. It's a mechanical hand-wind watch, and it's been keeping very accurate time. Cheap and different, for sure:
Welcome to the forum and to the thread.
I for one would love to see more Russian watches, which have their own history and stand firmly aside from Western design tradition which now influences even the Japanese and Chinese models.
FWIW I hand-wind most of my automatics (too many to keep one running 24/7). I used to attempt to wind them via rotation but noticed some of the cheaper ones (e.g. Seiko 5) lost a noticeable amount of reserve as a result. Hand-winding is also faster.
I am also curious as to your choice of Vespasian.
I love ancient Rome, especially the first century, and Vespasian (in my opinion) was by far the best for Rome in the first century. He was exactly the kind of emperor Rome needed at the time he began his reign. I have a coin minted in Rome during Vespasian's fifth year of reign - I guess I'm a bit of a groupie.
There are a lot of neat Russian watches that would fit in this thread. I do love the 24-hour Russian watch I posted, but I think I'll be selling it shortly because it's a little hard for me to see the numbers, small as they are. There are many Russian watches that are "frankenwatches", but the way I look at it is this: if they're using quality Russian movements that fit a dial and case without trashing either, who cares? You get quality Russian watch movements with interesting designs, and for cheap.
There was a discussion a little while back about the "modding" culture among Seiko fans. It seems to me that if the overall cost isn't that high (i.e. we remain under the nominal $1000 "PMW" threshold), tinkering with things makes perfect sense. PVD coating a Rolex is the preserve of morons imho, but changing the hands and dial on a Samurai sounds like fun.
I didn't know these things were happening with Russian watches. Are you doing this yourself, or is there a specialist customiser who made your watch? I really like some of those Vostok watches, just haven't found exactly the right one for me. I often find myself thinking "that dial, with that function, and those hands, in that case..." etc. Educate us please!
No, I am new to this fascination with watches, so modding is way out of my league. I asked about my 24-hour watch over at Watchuseek, just curious about the specific movement in my watch, and every response was that it's most definitely a modded movement, but using quality movements to make it run as a 24-hour watch. The crystal, dial, and case look brand new, but I have no idea who put it all together.
Just in reading about vintage Russian watches, there are so many comments about these hands on that dial or that dial in this case with that movement...that sort of thing...so it leads me to believe that there is plenty of mixing and matching going on. It's an interesting watch culture, for sure, and something a little off the beaten path, and there are solid quality watches to be had.
Being the poor man's thread, these are my three poor man's watches, although I'm thinking about selling the Russian watch only because my eyesight isn't what it used to be, and the numbers are hard for me to read. The Seiko SNDB35 and the Timex Expedition will be my everyday knock-around watches (when they get here in a couple days).
Just for the sake of discussion, here is a picture of the "frankened" movement in my Russian watch. Circled in red are two parts with a beveled edge, and circled in green is another part without a beveled edge when it too would be beveled if this were a single unmolested movement. Whoever did the work to make this a 24-hour watch went to a lot of trouble, but sure did a good job. As it was explained to me (none of which I understand):
" Vostok makes a modern automatic 24-hour movement based on the 2409, but that seems like an awful lot of trouble (to make it into my mechanical hand-wind watch). The automatic mechanism would need to be removed and a different winding bridge and main bridge installed from a 2409 or 2414. Notice that the winding bridge is not beveled like the main bridge and balance bridge, indicating they did not start out together. Then one would have to remove the date function and replace the cannon pinion, hour wheel, and second hand pinion with shorter ones from 2409."
So....that's one story of one frankened Russian watch and how it got that way.
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