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Poor man's watch thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by SirGrotius, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. westie187

    westie187 Senior member

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    Great watch- does the day say "jue"? Please excuse my ignorance.
     
  2. justridiculous

    justridiculous Senior member

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    No worries! That stands for "Jueves," which is Thursday in Spanish. The first 12 hours of the day show the weekday in English, the last are in Spanish.
     
  3. Neognosis

    Neognosis Senior member

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    I have an Orient Producer (bought on massdrop earlier this month) arriving tomorrow. I'm excited.
     
  4. caspersauer

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    Congrats on the new watch. Beautiful and tough... that's a nice combination.

    I do think you'll want to adjust it to either read English or Spanish, not the mix you're currently getting.

    The normal way things will work is: the date (number) will change right after midnight, and the day (letters) will change between midnight and 3:00 AM. The day changes by first switching to the "alternate language" (let's say Spanish) and then to the next day in the "primary" language (let's say English).

    You actually want to know the difference between noon and midnight because the 7s26 movement can be damaged if you adjust the day or date while the hands are in the 9:00 PM to 4:00 AM window. (See http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/consequences-changing-day-date-9pm-4am-384460.html for pages and pages of discussion.)

    To fix your situation, unscrew and then pull out the crown to the "all the way out" position to move the time to, let's say, noon. Noon will be 9 hours after the day and date have changed. Then, adjust the day and date (crown in the "middle" position) to yesterday... with the correct date, and the day in your preferred language (either one works). Then, move the hands again (crown all the way out) until the day and date flip, and get the hands to the current actual time... then you're all set.

    Of course, you can stick with your "Spanish" it the siesta hours... but be careful not to adjust the date or day in the middle of the day.

    Enjoy your new watch!
     
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  5. westie187

    westie187 Senior member

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    @justridiculous thanks for the info!
     
  6. justridiculous

    justridiculous Senior member

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    Thanks so much for the information! That's very helpful.
     
  7. Kai

    Kai Senior member

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    Seagull Tourbillon with aftermarket alligator strap.


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  8. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    It might be a Sea-Gull, but definitely breaks the $1k rule! Only a PMW in Kai-world, I think ;)

    Nice to see you, though - how's the Weltzeit?
     
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  9. Neognosis

    Neognosis Senior member

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    Received this orient producer for Father's Day. At first I felt lukewarm about it, but it quickly grew on me. [​IMG]
     
  10. TtownMD

    TtownMD Senior member

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    Very nice bud, lovely watch.
     
  11. mimo

    mimo Senior member

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    Part of me hopes they're not your real children.

    To be fair, a few years go my youngest bought me a polyester tie with Homer Simpson's face on it. I told her she should keep it in her room to remind her of me. That seemed an acceptable compromise.

    Just saying. :)
     
  12. TtownMD

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    Lol too funny :)
     
  13. caspersauer

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    I'm back to follow up on my posts from January -- where I was asking about trying on some Seiko divers before making a purchase decision. (Thanks to everyone who helped.)

    I ended up ordering a dozen or so watches from Amazon (that all came with Free Shipping and Free Returns).

    Here's a run-down of the candidates, mostly Seikos, but with two Orients thrown in just to make sure:

    SKX007, SKX171, SKX173, SKZ329, SKX013K, SKX779K3, SRP307,
    SRP313, SKX013K2, SRP309, SKX175, SNKG95K1, EM6500AM, SEL03002M0M


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    When I look at this as a collection I can see the biases I came in with:
    - of the 14, only 5 have any color beyond black, white, and metal
    - all have a 4 o'clock crown (plus a 2 o'clock crown on the Orient Ray)
    - some hack, some hand-wind
    - cases vary from 38mm (SKX013) to 46 mm (Orient M-Force)
    - I was interested in both bracelets and rubber straps
    - I figured I'd move the watch to a NATO strap at some point

    So, what did I learn? First, these are some great watches -- I found something to like about each and every one of them. There was also a disconnect between what I liked having on my wrist, what I liked looking at, and what I thought I "should" like. And, conversely, some things I "thought" wouldn't be important to me turned out to be things I actually did care about. In the end there were several I thought I could love owning... and I had to wrestle with subtleties to make my decision.

    I'll post some photos tomorrow of what I ended up deciding on.
     
  14. BostonHedonist

    BostonHedonist Senior member

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    Didn't want to try a SBDC?

    I dare ya to try on a PROSPEX.
     
  15. caspersauer

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    Some day, maybe, but for this purchase I had a budget to keep. Not unrelated... check out my response to one of your posts over in TWAT.
     
  16. ShawnBC

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    Speaking of Seiko - I know they are famous in the PMW for their good basic divers, but does anyone have any experience with their re-edited bullhead chronos, both in black and golden-brown (respectively SCEB009 and SCEB015)?

    I know, I know.. Quartz! But hey, I can't help it but love the styling! And, at 250$, what's not to like! Although I'm trying to avoid impulse purchases these days, so I might hold up on this watch for a few months to see it I really want/need it!

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    Source: Tihomir Vujnovic, from a random Google Image search.

    EDIT: damn, that's a lot of Seiko/Orient divers to buy at once! Although I love divers watches, I don't know if I could handle this much in my watch box - unless of course they're vintage Rolex editions!
     
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  17. caspersauer

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    So, my decision.

    But first, some of my impressions and opinions.

    And, before getting to that, let me emphasize that I bought these 14 new watches from Amazon because they were offered with "Free Shipping" and "Free Returns". I have mixed feelings about doing this, knowing that most likely I would be returning all but one watch. Ultimately I decided to do it, after committing to myself that I would buy the one I loved from Amazon. Now, back to the watches...

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    I liked the Monsters. I love the idea of a hand-winding and hacking movement. Unfortunately these have such a prominent bezel that it felt like I was wearing a bezel with a small watch inside. So, these four were returned.
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    I loved the two Orients. But the M-Force just is HUGE -- I felt like that watch was wearing me. The smaller Ray ticked almost all of my boxes, including a great bracelet... but it has that extra crown -- and that turned out to be a deal breaker. I realized I wanted a fairly "minimal" expression of a diver, so I returned these two.
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    The Seiko 5 really fell flat in this company. I had thought that the SKX013 (seen here on both rubber strap and bracelet) might be my "one" -- it was smaller that the rest and that appealed to my sense of minimalism. Turns out, the smaller size hurt it too much in legibility. Part of this, no doubt, is related to the height of the '013 -- just as tall as any of the others I tried. It felt a bit like looking down a toilet paper roll at the dial. These three were put back in their boxes and returned.
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    I thought I might like the black bezel, black day and date wheels, and black bracelet of the SKZ329, but it didn't speak to me... perhaps because of the square markers. Returned to sender.
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    This left me with four "usual suspects" from the SKX line: 007, 171, 173, and 175
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    My first impression from these was how much I didn't like the jubilee bracelet -- the looseness of the links and the polished center links were both turn-offs.

    Coming in, I thought there was little chance I'd like the colors on the bezel of the 175... but I actually did like that. They're more subtle than I had thought, and (maybe) are functional on a dive watch. (Plus, I loved "All Is Lost" and would have enjoyed wearing a watch worn by "our man").

    Honestly, any of these would make me happy. I decided against the 175 because of the red on the bezel -- ultimately it was a little too flashy for my personal (minimalist) tastes. And then I then eliminated the 173 because of the markers -- I just liked the shape/feel of the 007/171/175 markers more.

    So, that made it a choice between the 007 & 171. My rational mind told me to go for the 171 with the metal features -- the bezel, the second hand, the applied markers -- over the 007 with garish white paint where most of that metal appears on the 171.

    But, in person, on the wrist, it turns out that that white paint is so much more legible than the metal. The metal second hand can go away on you in weak light, and the metal of the applied markers doesn't add much to their legibility. In a way, the 007 is a logical minimal expression -- black and white on the dial and bezel insert, and metal for the bezel edge and case.

    I wanted to pair it with an oyster bracelet. With wJean sold out, so I picked up a fantastic bracelet from StrapCode.

    ~~~

    Here it is, as I waited to for a show to start last weekend:

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  18. joshmick

    joshmick Senior member

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    Bambino is on Massdrop again for $99! I got my ray for the same price and have been really happy. (PS it's right now listed as $119, but I am sure enough people will buy it for it to go down to $99)

     
  19. Messer

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    Here's my Parnis diver watch. I was looking for something different than your average sub clone and I'm quite impressed with this one. It has sapphire glass, ceramic bezel, pretty accurate non-hacking automatic mechanism and nicely incised dial. It is lacking lume, the original leather strap is very tough and crown is not precise.

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  20. TheWraith

    TheWraith Senior member

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    ^ How water resistant is it, @Messer?
     

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