I've been lurking on this thread for a while, trying to learn what to look for when buying a new "poor mans watch." I confess I was pretty ignorant until I stumbled upon this thread a week ago. Now I'm only moderately ignorant. Most recently, I bought a good-looking quartz watch from bulova, as I needed something classic looking to wear with suits at work functions, but after learning more, I realize I'm not happy with it, and, that for the same price I could get something of better craftsmanship that's automatic. Now that I know what I'm looking for, I'd like some suggestions if there's anyone knowledgeable who wouldn't mind dropping some of that knowledge on me! Here are my criteria: I'm looking for an automatic, understated watch, that's very classic and clean for under 200. I'm hoping I can get one that will look good with various straps (red and blue nylon in summer, black, and brown leather straps). My wrists are very small, so I'd like something in the 36 to 39 mm case size range. I like cases with a thinner edge, that really show off the face, which i'd want to be white or off-white. I also don't like numbers or numerals on the watch face. I'd also like something that's water resistant to 50m at least, and preferably with a clear back so I could see the mechanism. Do you have any suggestions? The dream watch that suits all of these criteria except price is the sarb031 I saw on this forum and others, from Seiko, but that is a $500 watch. What can I get that's comparable, that will last, and that will keep pretty good time? Thanks in advance.