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Polo Crockett & Jones last??

Roger

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First, are you sure that this shoe is made by C&J. Many RL shoes are made in Italy, and this one looks a candidate. However, if it is a C&J model, it will almost certainly be on their 314 or 325 last.
 

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I think it's made in Italy. The C&J shoes are stamped "Benchmade in England" in gold on the insole (I'm wearing a pair right now). I copied the web image of the Herring and magnified it. I couldn't read the text, but there's not enough letter for "England".

Edit: the "Benchmade in England" text inside the C&J shoes is also on 3 lines, not one as for the Herring.
 

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I once asked Crockett and Jones and they told me it was the 337.
 

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Is this a the loafer? If so, it is definitely not the 337.
 

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Yes, the RL Polo Herring is a very simple, plain-vamp loafer. It definitely is not made on the C&J 337 last.
 

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Sorry. Misread the original post and didn't see "Herring"
 

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Originally Posted by rogerm
I'm certain it's a C & J. It retailed for $595. It's a dead ringer for the C & J Aintree model.
The C&J Aintree was a Handgrade 3-eyelet plain-toe derby, probably on the 337 last, but no longer listed in the C&J catalog. It was nothing whatsoever like the current RL Herring, which is described as a Venetian loafer, as shown in NoVaguy's post. Are you sure the RL Polo shoe you're asking about is (or was) called the Herring?
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Maybe Herren (as in German for "men")? I think they had a model called that a while ago.
 

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I'm willing to concede that it may be called Heren, but I'm still fairly certain it's called the herring, and it looks nothing like the herring venetian loafer on polo.com.
 

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Originally Posted by rogerm
I'm willing to concede that it may be called Heren, but I'm still fairly certain it's called the herring, and it looks nothing like the herring venetian loafer on polo.com.

Then you can safely ignore my previous post. I was looking at the Herring venetian loafer on polo.com. I suggest you email [email protected] with your question. They answered my questions about which last was used for the Ralph Lauren Alton and Darlton models within a day.
 

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Just as an aside, I was at the RL Mansion yesterday and there were at least 6 new C&J handgrade models that I haden't seen before. Most of them were rendered in tan including a Hallam-like oxofrd and an Aintree-like blucher. These were all priced at $595. There was also a new shell cordovan chukka boot for $695.
 

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