Poll: Attolini vs. Rubinacci vs. Steed

[The Thin Man]

Originally Posted by George

I respect amateurs when they remember that they are amateurs and/or enthusiasts, but some go beyond that and because they are good writers and skilled in debate/argument they have over the years gained influence.

In terms of silhouette, cloth pattern, style all views are valid, but technical issues, technical discussions require technical knowledge and training.

God forbid posters do research and share it with others. Better to keep it superficial.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by Manton

You seriously can't see the flaw in this logic? You often strike me as an ass, but rarely as quite this dumb.
Ah, ad hominen time eh? Look, you haven't served an tailoring apprenticeship, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't sew a button on, yet you continually give tailoring advice out, fro a technical perspective. I could link to several post's were you are actually advising on a tailoring alterations, something that you've never actually been trained to do or have done. Now that's absurd. Tailoring is a craft, it cannot be learned by reading a book. Sorry, back to Thuycidies for you!

 

[TheFoo]

Originally Posted by The Thin Man

God forbid posters do research and share it with others. Better to keep it superficial.

Yeah, f*ck all attempts at objective refinement. Huzzah for WAYWRN!

 

[George]

Originally Posted by mafoofan

Yeah, f*ck all attempts at objective refinement. Huzzah for WAYWRN!
Gentlemen let's not forget that it's called Styleforum, not Tailorforum.

 

[The Thin Man]

Originally Posted by George

Gentlemen let's not forget that it's called Styleforum, not Tailorforum.
And who is stylish without wearing well-fitting clothes? And how many places have the potential for the few people who can describe why clothes fit well to share that knowledge? Tutee's post is arguably one of the most useful ever put on this forum, if one's goal is to gain knowledge. Yet it draws a snide reaction from you, as though tailors (most of whom likely appreciate knowledgeable customers) need someone to silence all amateurs.

 

[MBreinin]

I like them all. I almost went for the Attolini, but I really liked the sharpness of the cut of the Steed. However, a couple of the Steeds seemed to have issues with the the buttoning. I still voted for them because they resonated with me. I know people will probably say they had the worst fit of the three...but I am not about a perfect fit as much as I am about a visually striking appearance.

Just me.

Mike

 

[George]

Originally Posted by The Thin Man

Yet it draws a snide reaction from you, as though tailors (most of whom likely appreciate knowledgeable customers) need someone to silence all amateurs.
They like knowledgeable customers in the sense they like customers who know what they want and can articulate it. I shouldn't imagine that they like customers who think that by reading an online clothing forum they know more than they do or that they can tell them how to do their job. That's the danger. Do you not think it strange that the best dressed men probably play no part in on-line clothing forums.

 

[George]

Originally Posted by jefferyd

The same could be said of Sator. But he provides information which is useful to some people.
I missed your post first time around. I don't know how technical discussions aid the prospective customer though, when I say technical discussions, I mean construction, cutting etc. I understand the voyeuristic appeal for them but I don't understand how it will actually makes them more stylish.

 

[Bull]

Popcoarn, anyone?

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by MBreinin

I like them all. I almost went for the Attolini, but I really liked the sharpness of the cut of the Steed. However, a couple of the Steeds seemed to have issues with the the buttoning. I still voted for them because they resonated with me. I know people will probably say they had the worst fit of the three...but I am not about a perfect fit as much as I am about a visually striking appearance.

Just me.

Mike

In some of the Steed shots, Monty is wearing the jackets buttoned over sweaters. This is part of his style, and I like it a lot, but I'm guessing that Monty did not get the jackets fitted while wearing sweaters. Given that Monty elected for a fit at the more waisted end of the Steed range, I'm not surprised that the buttoned jackets are fighting the sweaters.

I say this with no tailoring training whatsoever. I also have opinions about restaurants without being a chef, and baseball teams without being a baseball bat.

- B

 

[George]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I say this with no tailoring training whatsoever. I also have opinions about restaurants without being a chef, and baseball teams without being a baseball bat. - B
Touche

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by George

Touche

I find that it is not so much the qualifications behind an opinion that are important as much as it is that the opinion corresponds to one's own. Opinions? - B

 

[MBreinin]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

In some of the Steed shots, Monty is wearing the jackets buttoned over sweaters. This is part of his style, and I like it a lot, but I'm guessing that Monty did not get the jackets fitted while wearing sweaters. Given that Monty elected for a fit at the more waisted end of the Steed range, I'm not surprised that the buttoned jackets are fighting the sweaters.

I say this with no tailoring training whatsoever. I also have opinions about restaurants without being a chef, and baseball teams without being a baseball bat.

- B

Makes sense to me. The Steed was just a bit sharper, which appeals to me. The Attolini was really lovely...but seemed "older" to me. I guess despite all of the SF groupthink that has permeated my brain, a sharper cut still resonates with me. I liked the serious waist suppression and open quarters of the Steed best.

Mike

 

[George]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

I find that it is not so much the qualifications behind an opinion that is important as much as it is that the opinion corresponds to one's own. Opinions? - B
I'm on the fence personally.

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by George

I'm on the fence personally.

Barbed wire?

- B