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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by MrDaniels, Sep 17, 2012.
Serious question: Are you colorblind?
Side note: Isn't it amazing that Men's Wearhouse does not even bother to get a decent fit on their suit models? Speaks volumes...
Depends on the type of business we're talking about.
I am taking the Phineas Cole along with the accolades of being the belle of the ball at any nightclub i frequent. if i go out at night in suit like that i am positive i well take a nice unsuspecting lady home even if i only have 2 dimes and a nickel in my pocket.
Phineas Cole = automatic poon
If you are going to a business meeting with a potential client - and those 2 are your only options - you better have a backup plan or a backup suit handy. Because people will notice what you are wearing and how you are suiting up.
You already know the answer. They don't bother because they don't have to. They are offering utilitarian suits that fulfill minimum requirements and will serve a basic occasional need for the overweight and out of shape 'everyman' majority. The man who wears this suit either knows no better, can afford no better or is of lower rank and wise enough to not upstage a superior; ergo, one who chooses to fly under the radar and keep his job.
Thank you. Being a creative, they expect me to walk in in a red suit.
way to read the op.
as for your "game", save it for the hoodrats
No. Are you?
There's a real aversion amongst some on this forum to any kind of dandyism and foppishness. It's a shame because these are both part of the great variety of men's style. If you can't see that the Phineas Cole suit is beautiful, and you seriously prefer the shoddy Men's Warehouse thing, then I would suggest that actually you are missing a significant part of what constitutes (and has always constituted) male style. I am not asking everyone here to give up their CBD and become a Dandy. I am not asking anyone else to wear this suit. I am not even asking anyone else even to say that they prefer it on this occasion - that is your choice and the choice we have been given is contextual and my context is not yours. But the inability to understand why someone else with an interest in style might prefer the PC suit, suggests not a a better aesthetic sense but simply a rather narrow view of what constitutes style, seemingly based entirely (or largely) on colour.
And, as it happens, I like the colour of the PC suit but this is also partly a product of the combination with the texure of the fabric and the cut. The same colour in flat textured, badly cut sack like the MW one might be even worse than the brown. Likewise, I might prefer a brown PC suit in the same fabric and cut. But we have here a choice between one high quality, well finished suit in a lovely fabric which happens to be red, and one thing which is half-way to being a sack, which is brown. I'll repeat again, I don't have to follow CBD rules where I work, so there is no pressure on me to chose something crap and I can peacock a little if I want. And if I had to wear something like that Men's Warehouse thing every day, I'd almost rather quit my job...
MW, they guaranteed I'd like the way I look right?
Kidding aside, for an important business meeting no one besides an SFer would take a second glance at the MW suit. It's bad, bulky and ill-fitting but its generic and safe. If I had a meeting in 2 hours, ruined the suit I was wearing with battery acid, and these were the only two suits available in my size that I could purchase I would take the MW.
If we are talking about which would I hang in my closet I would take PC and use it as a fun weekend suit for grabbing attention once and a while.
I think the point is not whether you can get away with it in the confines of your office where everyone knows you already, but whether you would be comfortable wearing it to a meeting where you are hoping to consummate a significant transaction with strangers about whom you know absolutely nothing.
Again, this doesn't really define which industry you're in.
Let's say you're in IT and you're meeting with a software firm. Neither is the correct option as just about everyone will be wearing t-shirt and jeans. That doesn't make that particular business meeting any less important than let's say a negotiation between financial firms. I think the implicit assumption being made is that if you are in a CBD environment in the US, which suit do you choose?
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