Point and Shoot

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by mrjester, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. mrjester

    mrjester Senior member

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    This is what I'm going for. My girlfriend likes cameras but maybe phrasing it differently would accurately depict her interest. "She admires them without knowing what to really do with them." She also, contradictorily, hates technology. Her parents got her a laptop that sat in the box from December to June. She pinterests on her phone for hours. HOURS. But no laptop in sight.

    So I think for the sake of us both knowing how to work the camera within a few hours, I'll go for an advanced PaS. I like DSLRs but I have no business with one. Just like my Edward Greens.

    Thanks for the info though, Clag. I read up on both cameras and I like them, but it's not really for me. I'll get by for a few years on a good PaS.
     


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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I splurged on a nice PaS a few years ago in my younger days when I was doing a lot of rather dangerous things I shouldn't have been doing and wanting to photograph them. When I felt my more reckless days were behind me, I picked up a DSLR. I still bring both on travel though, and I got my money's worth with the PaS.

    Have you looked into micro 4/3's? I don't know too much about them...they were originally something Olympus did but I think Panasonic does as well. Sort of like a middle ground between a PaS and a DSLR. The nice thing is you can get different lenses with them. Within your price range.

    http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Fou...=1374506054&sr=1-2&keywords=micro+four+thirds
     


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    Now we're talking. That's a handsome camera with some bonus points for lens swappage.
     


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    mrjester Senior member

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    I bet that price doesn't include a good general purpose lens, does it..?

    I know zero about lenses. care to share the basics that I should look for?
     


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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It comes with a decent all purpose lens. Not going to be great at night or anything, but a step up from all but the best PaS (and a definite step up the moment you get something other than the default lens). After you get comfortable with it, I'd probably look at either a 35mm or a good zoom lens (which often can take decent pictures of movement....I think...)
    If you want to read a bit more about micro 4/3:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Four_Thirds_system
     
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    I think I found what I'll be going for. Thanks, man! I'll stick with the default lens for a little while but sooner or later, after some proper research, I'll find other ones.
     


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    The micro 4/3 stuff is nice, but honestly a canon G-series (or some of the other larger cameras like the lumix posted in this thread) has a pretty nice lens. Even the S95 has a pretty decent lens (and the same sensor as the G-series cameras). The lenses may not be interchangeable, but they cover a decent zoom range and look good. How many people buy a starter DSLR like a Rebel and just use the kit lens? The kit lens sucks, but decent pieces of glass cost more used than all of the other cameras being talked about in this thread.

    I have an old DSLR and a few lenses, and I just rarely bother to use them. Every once and a while I will think about shelling out for a new body (mine takes great photos, but the autofocus and low-light performance are pretty bad) or a new lens or two...and I just can't justify it. The S95 takes such nice pictures and is so easy to carry.
    About the only thing I regularly use the DSLR for are studio-type shots. I'll put it on a tripod, set up some lights and a backdrop, and shoot some ebay photos or something.

    The only thing that strengthens the DSLR for me, is that cell phone cameras have gotten pretty good. Thus you could opt to forgo the P&S. You'll always have the phone with you as a nice pocket sized camera, and when you want something better, you can step up to the DSLR for those times where you don't have to worry about carrying a bag (since no pocket can hold a DSLR).
     


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    mrjester Senior member

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    For inquiring minds..

    A friend of mine (local) pointed out a vendor he does a lot of work with on eBay and, against Clags better judgement, I got a camera off of eBay.

    New in box, Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3X. $295 shipped. Talked him down.
     


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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    New off eBay isn't a problem. It was used off eBay that I cautioned against.

    And seems like an excellence choice in camera. What lens did you get? And now you need to start looking for a good 35mm lens ^_^
     
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    Here's the part you won't believe.

    It's the X lens. The lens that costs like $300 (14-42 still). With the camera. New in box. For $295. I asked why it was such a good deal. He said it was a gift and he didn't want it, he only likes DSLRs. I sent him pictures of the X lens and asked him to verify. He said it's the X lens for sure.

    NIB Brown Body, GF3X. Body, lens, all of it. NIB.

    [​IMG]

    Here's the stats on it; http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/lens/g_x_vario_14_42.html

    Did I make a good choice? (If it is in fact a NIB camera?)
     
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    If it's everything it's supposed to be, yes. You'll still want to eventually look into other lenses (though I know little to nothing about M4/3 lenses and only a little more about those for dslr's)
     


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    We'll see Friday.

    Yeah I'll look in to other lenses in a while. But, first... unstructured cotton/linen sport coats for the long AZ summer. Prices are a-droppin'.
     


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    I also read some people don't like the digital X lens, the mechanical adjustments on it. Not that they hurt the image - they don't. Just hard to find the zoom on the first go. But, really, I hate reading that on the interviews. "It's hard to find the button on the first go, not quite a fan of that." Someone that will have the camera for 2-3 years will probably remember where the button is. No need to scar the review for it.

    I need some rubber grip tape for it. Every review has posted it's slippery. I'll get something for it and make a grip on my own.
     




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    Dude, they sent you a backwards camera.

    You totally got ripped off.
     


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