Pocket squares?

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  1. demeis

    demeis Senior member

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    I was going through www.neckties.com and looking at all the different folds for pocket squares. Up until tonight i didn't realize that there were so many, i've only been using presidential and the cagney. This brought up a question what folds are appropriate for different events? thanks Nik
     


  2. Phil

    Phil Senior member

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    I think this is probably a bit "nit-picky", but here are my common sense guidelines concerning pocket squares:

    1. Formality of pocket squares can be loosely based on the material and color of square. A white square, in my mind, is always going to look more formal than a paisely or polka dotted one. I feel like a silk square is going to look more formal than a linen square, but I think that might be an individual thing.

    2. Certain folds are going to look more conservative than others. The tv fold, or one where just a sliver of square shows, might be construed as more formal by some people. Conversely, a brightly colored paisely, especially when plopped in the pocket in a haphazard way, is going to look a bit more informal and sporty.

    When I wear my tuxedo I wear either a white linen or white silk (with black edges) square, and I put it in there in the exact same manner I would normally. I like my square with a few points showing, all angled toward my shoulder. Im sure its just in my mind, but I feel like it makes my shoulders look broader when I wear it like this. Ive always found the tv fold a bit stuffy, but if it works for you, go for it. I like mine to look like I put it in there and forgot about it.
     


  3. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    My favorite square is a white silk with an American Flag adorned with the Yellow Ribbon used as a Support Our Troops icon. However, the maker stupidly put this right in the center of the square. Hence, I place all 4 corners together and shove them (gently, of course) into the pocket, leaving the 'pouf'd' center hanging above the top of the pocket, flag blowin' in the wind. The Pocket Square, traditional though it may be, is one of those wild, wild areas where gentlemen can let loose. After all, we don't look very good in rhinestone-studded fishnet stockings or 44ct. diamond-encrusted necklaces, do we? So I say, Throw Your Head Back, Put Your Chest Out, and Let The Square Fly. [​IMG]
     


  4. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Thanks for the mental image, Alex. My Monday is ruined now.
     


  5. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    I would say that the fold depends less on the nature of the event you are attending and more on the fabric of the square itself. Silk and wool squares are too soft for a four-point fold, for instance; the points won't stay up. Conversely, linen is too stiff for the puff fold.

    Linen takes well to the four point fold; cotton to the triangle fold; silk and wool to the puff, "puff with points" and one that Flusser invented which so far as I know has no name. Avoid the TV fold; it's cheesy.
     


  6. The_Foxx

    The_Foxx Senior member

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    Two things I thought I'd throw into this discussion:

    1. I've found that certain manufacturers make a smaller pocket square in silk/ linen/ cotton (my local menstore carries them, but don't know the brand offhand). Brioni has a line of silks like this (solid colors) that are a good example-- smaller sizes are MUCH easier to manipulate for me, and don't cause any bulges in the breast pocket.

    2. As A. Harris how he folds the squares for his manniquins on ebay-- really cool, and has sort of a neat flared angle to the point. Another option might be for someone to take (or purchase) a square in the Alan Flusser shop, and see what they do for you; seems to me the pictures from the books show a really nice folded sqaure.
     


  7. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    Heck, Mr. C., that's nothing compared to my Sunday. I was put in jail over on Andy's.
     


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