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Pocket Square Review: an Ongoing Series

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. Threadbearer

    Threadbearer Senior member

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    You cant help but just chuckle a little at watching a new Foo thread fall completely off the rails.
    There's no good reason this thread should have gotten off track. I thought Foo made good points and had good examples to back them up. Then the FooFighters assembled to shout him down for having strong opinions.

    This thread could easily get back on track if a few more people would follow the lead of Moo and OD/OT by posting combo pix so that we can discuss what we think works and what doesn't.

    Hober carries them.
    Them? I only see one.
     
  2. TheWraith

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    Sorry Foo, but the white square is just too classic to ever look bad. Agreed that cream might make a slightly better subtitute on many occasions, but you simply can't go wrong with white.

    +1 agree totally.

    wait .... what?

    i respect you emptym, but this is ridiculous. you do realize this is a forum right? the thought process is similar to the slippery slope thought process that initiated racial segregation in america.

    anyone can say anything they want on any thread, as long as they are not breaking the rules set for all members on SF.


    +1 again. Very well said.
     
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    Them? I only see one.

    Well, I thought I remembered seeing more. I could just be getting old, though. [​IMG]
     
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    I love white squares in the TV fold. I like white shirts too. And I even like them together. Maybe it's the Trad in me.

    Frankly, most guys who are really into clothes -- myself included -- could do with more minimalist restraint, not less.
     
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    Frankly, most guys who are really into clothes -- myself included -- could do with more minimalist restraint, not less.
    Right you are, Doc. Maximize minimalism. That's my new bumper sticker.
     
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    It takes a man with outrageous swag and confidence to pull off this outfit without being called Ricky Martin's poolboy

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    I love white squares in the TV fold. I like white shirts too. And I even like them together. Maybe it's the Trad in me.

    Frankly, most guys who are really into clothes -- myself included -- could do with more minimalist restraint, not less.


    +Infinity.
     
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    I love white squares in the TV fold. I like white shirts too. And I even like them together. Maybe it's the Trad in me.

    Frankly, most guys who are really into clothes -- myself included -- could do with more minimalist restraint, not less.


    very well stated. I concur.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    wait .... what?

    i respect you emptym, but this is ridiculous. you do realize this is a forum right? the thought process is similar to the slippery slope thought process that initiated racial segregation in america.

    anyone can say anything they want on any thread, as long as they are not breaking the rules set for all members on SF.


    Racial segregation, what? Mark made a judgement call. He thought that the thread was veering off topic, and just wanted to nudge it back. I read through the thread, and honestly, think that the thread is fine, better than most Styleforum threads, even; but let's not blow things out of proportion and start comparing a moderation call with racial segregation.

    Also, Mark is new at this, so please cut him a little slack. He is a reasonable guy. If you have any suggestions for him or issues with a call, just PM him.

    Don't worry. This place is not going to become AAAC or anything. Think about it. Andy runs AAAC. J and I run this place.

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    There's no good reason this thread should have gotten off track. I thought Foo made good points and had good examples to back them up. Then the FooFighters assembled to shout him down for having strong opinions.

    This thread could easily get back on track if a few more people would follow the lead of Moo and OD/OT by posting combo pix so that we can discuss what we think works and what doesn't.


    OK, here goes. I want to have fun with my PS, but if I had to be completely honest with myself, I'd say the white linen TV-fold looks the classiest.

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    Great shots there, acecow. Excellent stuff [​IMG]
     
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    Great shots there, acecow. Excellent stuff [​IMG]

    +1
     
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    I love white squares in the TV fold. I like white shirts too. And I even like them together. Maybe it's the Trad in me.

    Frankly, most guys who are really into clothes -- myself included -- could do with more minimalist restraint, not less.


    One point of foos that I agree with is that a pocket square is always extra. It can't be minimal. Especially in the real world. It can't really be minimalist if most people will see it as am added piece of flair. Minimalist would be no pocket square at all.
    That bring said I still think white on white can work. It just isn't the grail combo that it is being treated as. It is crossing levels formality and intricacy.
     
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    OK, here goes. I want to have fun with my PS, but if I had to be completely honest with myself, I'd say the white linen TV-fold looks the classiest.
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    Lovin 2, 4, and 6!! Others still look good Are these all 4IH? Why cant my 4IH ever look like yours
     
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    A white linen hanky is not a pocket square; it's a pocket handkerchief. That's why it's OK with a white shirt, whereas silk or wool squares that are too close to the wearer's shirt don't work. The meaning that we attach to certain objects can trump their visual effect.
     
  18. emptym

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    wait .... what? i respect you emptym, but this is ridiculous. you do realize this is a forum right? the thought process is similar to the slippery slope thought process that initiated racial segregation in america. anyone can say anything they want on any thread, as long as they are not breaking the rules set for all members on SF.
    Racial segregation, what? Mark made a judgement call. He thought that the thread was veering off topic, and just wanted to nudge it back. I read through the thread, and honestly, think that the thread is fine, better than most Styleforum threads, even; but let's not blow things out of proportion and start comparing a moderation call with racial segregation. Also, Mark is new at this, so please cut him a little slack. He is a reasonable guy. If you have any suggestions for him or issues with a call, just PM him. As I've mentioned several times, I'm a big fan of the "Wild West" character of SF. Don't worry. This place is not going to become AAAC or anything. Think about it. Andy runs AAAC. J and I run this place. Fok.
    [​IMG] I think I was mostly speaking as a poster, not as a mod. Like Fok says, I'm very new to this mod business. My concern as a poster was that we don't derail a potentially helpful thread with personal attacks and silly debates. As a mod, I didn't think anyone's posts needed to be dealt with on that level.
     
  19. Kent Wang

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    This doesn't need to be Foo's personal thread. If you want to post your own pocket square reviews, I don't see why you need to start a separate one.
    I would be curious to here your rules (or lack there of) regarding pocket squares.
    I don't overthink it the way Foo does. I don't really have many rules. Mostly that the square should complement either the tie or shirt, or both. Not match, but "work with".
    There are some excellent threads on SF showing wedding tie selections. Many are silver or very subtle patterns of silver and black. Most of them would coordinate nicely with a Charcoal suit, white shirt and white linen pocket square. I agree 100% on the creme looking "off" in this situation. Also the white PS should offer nice contrast or compliment any flowers or boutonniere but most of all, your brides white dress.
    Are these all with a bowtie? If you wear a wedding tie, which is traditionally silver-ish, then a silver pocket square is not going to work. I'm not sure what would be best, maybe a white silk in a puff fold"‚ÄĚless somber than a white linen.
     
  20. acecow

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    Great shots there, acecow. Excellent stuff [​IMG]

    +1

    Lovin 2, 4, and 6!! Others still look good

    Are these all 4IH? Why cant my 4IH ever look like yours


    Thanks guys.

    k4lnamja, I don't think I tie a very good 4IH. For example in picture 4 it is horrible. After seeing the pictures I immediately retied it. To me, there are several components to form a good 4IH knot, but I'm in no way an expert. For example, Spoo's or someotherstyle's knots are far superior to anything I was able to achieve.

    For me it's like this:

    1. The tie has to be wide enough. Less than 3 inches and it's nearly impossible to get a good dimple.
    2. The tie has to be of decent quality. Doesn't have to be too expensive, but not a polyester TJ Maxx tie.
    3. Most importantly, the knot has to be in the tie's sweet spot. Once again, in #4 I initially tied it too long, so the knot was made at the thinner part of the tie, hence no beautiful dimple. After retying it to a shorter length I managed to get a very nice dimple that I was proud of for the whole night. The downside was that the narrow part of the tie was hanging slightly lower than the wide part, but since I was wearing a jacket it wasn't a big deal at all, I just tucked it into my pants.
     

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