Pocket Square Review: an Ongoing Series

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, Feb 28, 2011.

  1. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    I hardly follow you. Most of the time I barely notice you in this place, to be honest. But, if you're allowed to voice your opinion in this thread, then please allow me the courtesy to do likewise here in my disagreeing with you on the stated topic.

    Sure, disagree with me. But that's not what you're doing. My general fallibility, my "class" compared to Cary Grant, and my purchase of a green wallet have nothing to do with my opinions about pocket squares. If you're going to be a dick, at least own up to it.
     
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    I can respect different viewpoints--in fact, I love thinking about them and debating them. But if you simply believe style is subjective, I don't see what there's to talk about at all, and I can't fathom why you'd want to participate in this kind of forum.

    There is objectivity in style, but it doesn't mean you cannot be adventurous (oh goodness, am I calling PS choice adventurous?!) and break some rules, which aren't even rules at all, as far as I'm concerned. Not every style element must be analyzed.
     
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    Oi, don't fight, girls. In any case, I believe that clothing is first and foremost a fun hobby and should be viewed only as that. Some days I want a crazy outfit with yellow pants and a blue jacket and sometimes I feel like a conservative suit with a conservative shirt and tie. My point is that picking an outfit should, to some degree, be based on rules and color coordination, but should also be fun and frivolous. I'll say again that you are overthinking this too much. I'm not a Louvre painting and people don't scrutinize my outfit on a daily basis. If I feel like a white PS with a white shirt, then I'll wear it and look good, because I feel good about it. What you say is very subjective. How do you determine an outfit to be too contrasting or sharp? What if I want it to look that way? Who says I must look like some kind of idealized version of a human male perfectly dressed for every occasion? My style shows in small details. If everybody followed the same rules it would've been oh so boring. There are rules that make sense and then there are rules that don't. I think this discussion focuses more on the latter.
    I also have those devil may care, 'go-to-hell' moments with my clothes. Those moments should be an exception from normal routine. People tend to break the 'rules' with more style when they are aware of them. Besides, this forum isn't Life, it's online clothes hobbyism. This is where we get to focus and obsess about the details. With the resurgeance of popularity of pocket squares I see a lot of blunders out there. I don't see anything wrong with taking a closer look and developing a keener eye with sharper discretion. More men would be well dressed if they did.
     
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    There is objectivity in style, but it doesn't mean you cannot be adventurous (oh goodness, am I calling PS choice adventurous?!) and break some rules, which aren't even rules at all, as far as I'm concerned. Not every style element must be analyzed.

    Well, I'm analyzing in this thread. No point in hanging around if you don't like that. Hate to be snarky, but I'm tired of arguing on and on about this sort of thing.
     
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    Well, I'm analyzing in this thread. No point in hanging around if you don't like that. Hate to be snarky, but I'm tired of arguing on and on about this sort of thing.

    Sorry, I see your point. While I don't agree with many of the things you say, it's still a pleasure to read them as they are quite informative. Carry on.

    I'll be monitoring this thread closely. [​IMG]
     
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    Besides, this forum isn't Life, it's online clothes hobbyism. This is where we get to focus and obsess about the details. With the resurgeance of popularity of pocket squares I see a lot of blunders out there. I don't see anything wrong with taking a closer look and developing a keener eye with sharper discretion. So, I applaud the op for this thread.

    Thank you, sir. I just wanted to talk about pocket squares, damn it.

    I agree that hobbyism is largely to blame for a lot of blunders. People want to show off their possessions rather than dress well.

    Also, there is a delusional notion of egalitarianism at the root of the problem: we can all dress stylishly if we just be ourselves and break the 'rules'!
     
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    So what is your choice of square with black tie?
     
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    [​IMG] "you're going to look like THE MAN stylish and classy"
     
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    Does anyone else feel like a ghostly presence just entered the room?
     
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    So what is your choice of square with black tie?

    I like cream silk with black tie.
     
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    Oh is it? That's the same reasoning that gets people to buy $300 Hermes ties with cartoon ducks and little H's on them.

    Honestly I buy them because the ducks are cute [​IMG]

    I think that a white pocket square goes well with a white shirt as it "echoes" the shirt cuff showing under the jacket sleeves. I am not sure that I am explaining this well, however.

    I'm roughly in agreement on most other points -- a plain shirt and a plain pocket square is hard to work unless you strongly vary the texture of some elements like using a grenadine pocket square (at which point they aren't really that plain). That said, assuming you are using a single-color tie, it is still doable -- this prevents the tie from becoming the focal point.
     
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    Honestly I buy them because the ducks are cute [​IMG]

    I think that a white pocket square goes well with a white shirt as it "echoes" the shirt cuff showing under the jacket sleeves. I am not sure that I am explaining this well, however.

    I'm roughly in agreement on most other points -- a plain shirt and a plain pocket square is hard to work unless you strongly vary the texture of some elements like using a grenadine pocket square (at which point they aren't really that plain). That said, assuming you are using a single-color tie, it is still doable -- this prevents the tie from becoming the focal point.


    So you mean plain shirt, tie, and PS? The all-solid look is not good for day clothes. (As said before, black tie is a different game).
     
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    just buy a white PS. goes with everything. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

    This.
     

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