pleat front vs. plain front vs. body type?

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  1. wmarson

    wmarson Member

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    Hi. Do certain body types dictate what type of trousers might look best? Are plain front's typically for thin men and pleats for larger men? I guess my primary question is why would someone choose a pleat trouser over a plain front trouser (and visa-versa)? Thank you.
     
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    Preference mainly. Pleated trousers give you a bit more movement room (and also seem to tent up more when sitting in my experience). No pleats look cleaner and slimmer.

    If you're going to pleat, I still say it's best to have the pleats face forward (English) unlike the American or Italian way (reverse). Reversed pleats don't help anyone's physique since they make one's hips seem like they're bulging. I'm sure everyone will argue this with me, but I've worn both types.

    Whatever you do, don't go with triple pleated pants. Double is classic, single is a bit more modern.
     
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    Preference mainly. Pleated trousers give you a bit more movement room (and also seem to tent up more when sitting in my experience). No pleats look cleaner and slimmer.

    If you're going to pleat, I still say it's best to have the pleats face forward (English) unlike the American or Italian way (reverse). Reversed pleats don't help anyone's physique since they make one's hips seem like they're bulging. I'm sure everyone will argue this with me, but I've worn both types.

    Whatever you do, don't go with triple pleated pants. Double is classic, single is a bit more modern.


    Wider hips compared to narrow waist make the case for pleats, I think. Otherwise, your pockets might span.
     
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    Toiletduck Senior member

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    Wider hips compared to narrow waist make the case for pleats, I think. Otherwise, your pockets might span.

    I believe what he's trying to say is that wide hips might pull the pockets on plain fronts outwards.

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    One thing I've noticed myself: while flat fronts do have a slimming effect, particularly on the hips/thighs, that effect may actually work against you overall.

    I'm one of those men unfortunate enough to have a nice beer belly (more from junk food than beer, but there's some of that in there too). I tend to wear flats, but I've noticed that by slimming up the look of my thighs / hips, the size of my middle is accentuated. Whereas, when wearing pleats, my lower half seems to match my upper half in size. Then I look uniformly large all the way around but in a good way, not a bad one.
     
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    Wait, you smell that?
    I believe what he's trying to say is that wide hips might pull the pockets on plain fronts outwards.
    In my experience some flat front pants do have a widening effect at the hips not only due to wide hips/muscular legs, but also because of the front pocket placement. If the front pockets are on seam, they don't lay flat against your leg and tend to flare out. Kind of like an oompa loompa. For some reason, I find that some pleated pants (I really don't know the difference between reverse or forward) has a slimming effect at the waist line, despite more room in the thigh/leg area.
     
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    Maybe you need to go to a good tailor and ask their advice if it is a technical issue with properly fitting your body type. Otherwise, go with the one that you like best.
     
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    I believe what he's trying to say is that wide hips might pull the pockets on plain fronts outwards. [​IMG]
    Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Guys with developed glutes and legs (or just prominent rears) might be served better with pleats, since they give more room for a given waist size. I've got a 33" waist and 40" hips. Some flat fronts give me trouble, while others fit fine. I suppose if my hips were a few inches narrower, I would rarely if ever have a problem with flat front pants.
     
  10. NewYorkBuck

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    I find flat fronts very uncomfortable for a mans personal parts, even w out anything in ones pockets. Whatever slimming effect is lost w pleats is a small price to pay IMO.
     
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    I find this thread refreshing - I have a "prominent rear" as mentioned above, which most girls love but needless to say... makes flat front pants look terrible on me, and you can usually count my pubic hairs in the front from looking.

    This makes me feel better about having to wear pleats.
     
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    ....and you can usually count my pubic hairs in the front from looking.

    Thanks for the visual, man.
     
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    I see my share of students that are too thick to wear thin flat fronts. It winds up looking ridiculous. They would rather die than wear pleats, but they don't quite get that a little bit of room and drape to their clothes might actually enhance the overall appearance.
     
  14. damonallan

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    Gents...

    This can be a difficult one to get your head around...I agree.

    If you're thinking body shapes: O, Cone, Pear, Rectangle, you can always draw out these shapes....ya I know it seems weird.

    With the rectangle guy he can wear both if he is of average build. More pleats on a larger/wider man can help to make him look wider.

    Take the short portly man as an example. The goal is to slim and lengthen. That can be acheived with flat front or single pleat.

    The cone man needs his hips widened a bit to even out his body so even a double pleat will work some wonders here.

    As for the Pear, again, pleats can help to widen the look.

    I understand that the function of pleats is for comfort when the front is expended esp. when sitting. The portly gentlemen "O" or Pear can do some neat compromising by selecting FLAT FRONTs with SUSPENDARS.

    Comments?
     
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    That's SUSPENDERS...
     

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