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Please help. Every pair of pants I try on looks frumpy.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Shay, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. Shay

    Shay Member

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    I thought I could dress myself until I recently got an office job. I had a small "business casual" wardrobe I'd accumulated over the years of mostly vintage pants and slim or athletic-fit "dress shirts." I like the trim look, the look the models and mannequins wear (and accomplish with clips and pens), but this isn't what I'm finding on the racks.

    Right now, I'm wearing mostly vintage polyester Action Slacks and Wrangler Wrancher "dress jeans." Neither look too vintage, but the Wrancher's aren't versatile and Action Slacks are discontinued. And another gripe: Even before Action Slacks were discontinued, they switched from trim horizontal front pockets to always-bulgy vertical front pockets. Apparently all pants have vertical front pockets now, which I cannot understand.

    I feel ridiculous in the new stuff I've purchased, but I need some more clothes. Is there anything new out there with a less frumpy, drapey look?

    Thank you,
    -Shay
     
  2. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    Looks like you need to start from the beginning. What exactly have you bought that looks frumpy to you. A couple of pics of this frumpy look on you would help.
     
  3. Shay

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    Good:
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    Not bad, but getting a bit drapey for my tastes:
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  4. Shay

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    Great idea. I've uploaded three pictures. They may be posted to this thread pending moderator approval, but can be found in the default album of my profile right now.

    Two are of me in Action Slacks and Wranchers. This is the trim fit I prefer. I'm usually trimmer myself, but 6 months on the road last year was hard on my waistline. I had to get a new job when I started getting a little frumpy myself.

    The third picture is me in some Dockers. These aren't terrible, but they're the worst I own. I feel like I'm wearing the business casual version of cargo shorts. I don't own any of the ubiquitous linnen-y, black clown pants which are most of what I've tried on.

    I need help. I've looked through several pages of the "Wearing Right Now" thread, but almost everyone is wearing a jacket. Jackets are rare in Houston, so pant and shirt silhouette are critical.

    I'm uploading a fourth picture right now which may appear in the album later (thunderstorms and terrible connection today). This is me doing a back bridge in casual clothing to give an idea of my off-work (life-)style. I appreciate the pipe-smoker look common on this forum, but it's not a fit for me. I want to look like a guy who does back bridges.
     
  5. rexet

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    We need to see the complete outfit: put socks and shoes on ;) !
    In my opinion something is missing and this is indeed probably the jacket...
    What about a light linen one?
     
  6. Shay

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    Not much to show with my shoes, I only own two pairs: high-topped, black, cap-toed oxfords and a dark brown wingtips. I like shoes that are broken in and traditional. I definitely need to but more shoes, but I'm picky, so this will take time.

    I'll put up some pictures this week of what I'm wearing day-to-day. Pretty happy with what I've got, but I can't find more of it. Fashion seems to have passed me by.
     
  7. Shay

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    ... and here I am after work:
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    Specifically looking for newly manufactured non-billowy pants, but very open to "Ground up" advice--I may need it more than I know.
     
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  8. Spong

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    What is this? I don't even...
     
  9. Mr. Moo

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    What the fuck is this?
     
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  12. Shay

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    A back bridge.

    As I look through the pages here, I see your styles and imagine some of you as the cognac and cigar type, some as the PBR and pipe type, etcetera.

    Thought I'd give an indication of my "type." My professional wardrobe doesn't quite express my style yet, so I'm working backwards.
     
  13. a la mode

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    +1
     
  14. SirGrotius

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    Haha. That's amazing. I like you because you can write.

    Anyway, could you pick two worse brands for trousers? Just get slim fit trousers that taper. You need good shoes too. Shoes can make your trousers. Incotex is relatively affordable, and have a slim fit line. You can get very expensive and edgy with things like Jil Sander or go simple "name brand" like Burberry and Hugo Boss (red label) for slim trousers. Not that hard. Expect to pay about $200 or so for decent trousers in my experience, and up to $750 if you like to ball.
     
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    Go on
     
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    Is this for real? If it is, those pants you posted basically fit too tight on you through the thighs.
     
  19. jamesny

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    This is ridiculous. You call that frumpy?
     
  20. Shay

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    Thank you! I'll definitely check those out. At $70k, $200 pants are at the upper end of affordable for me. $750 is my mortgage payment.

    Guess I've wondered into a rich corner of the web. I might appear strange to some of you, but I am real. And some of you appear strange to me. I think a guy in (expensive, I'm sure) bluejeans and a suit jacket looks like he's just missed a casting call for a 90s rom-com. I don't mean that in a mean-spirited way. To be fair, I often dress a bit like the dickhead older brother in an 80s Summer Camp movie. Different strokes ...

    I work in the oil industry. Most of the principles in my company came from the field. I often see millionaires in the elevator wearing $40 pants and plaid Merino wool shirts. That is a look and there is a purpose behind it: A man who has been blue collar wants to project to the world that if things got bad enough, if the shit really hit the fan, he could roll up his sleeves and go back to throwing tongs.

    I am an actual human being who just doesn't care for swishy pants and who, unhappy with his choices, wants to believe there must be some place out there to find a different fit. I thought this might be a good place to start looking.
     
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