Based on advice from this forum I went kinda cheap on my new jeans. I went to the outlet mall this evening and walked around stores asking if they had 36" jeans. I only found some at the Lucky Brand store, so I tried them on. The new pair: Lucky Brand Slim Fit Low Rise Boot Cut, 31" waist, Long, unstretched by wear The old pair: Calvin Klein 34" waist, 36" length, stretched by wear Please tell me what you think of the pics attached. Absolute judgements such as "they both look bad" or crap like taht are useless to me, I am a fashion moron and just gradually making improvements, so a comparison of one with the other would be best. I think the new ones are a little tight right now (I jammed my balls getting into them, lol, and they are basically skin tight on my butt and legs right now), but they should stretch out real nice.