Please critique this Zegna "sport coat"

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  1. kaczmar2

    kaczmar2 Well-Known Member

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    I was at Neiman Marcus Last Call today looking for a sport coat... I found nothing exciting until my wife happened on this: It's a mainline Ermenegildo Zegna suit coat, Made In Italy tag, 49/51 Wool/Silk, Roma fit.

    It looked like this was a full suit but lost the slacks somewhere along the way; hence the sweet price drops: $2095 --> $998, marked down 75% (presumably after the jacket was orphaned), then I got 20% off that. Final price: $188.

    I know that it needs a good pressing, especially in the shoulders, but I would like to see what you guys think of the fit. I am going to have it taken in on the sides for more waist suppression. Good idea? Also, there is not much extra fabric in the sleeves even though the pictures make it look like there is.

    I own a Zegna "Milano" fit suit, and the silhouette of that jacket is different, slimmer in the body and the shoulder is much gentler. What are the other differences between the fits?

    I have about a 40" chest, but my Milano suit coat in 52L fits me great. This is a 52R, but I thought since I would be wearing only the jacket as a sport coat, a little less length would be OK. What do you think?


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    Thanks for any feedback.
     
  2. rioni

    rioni Senior member

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    Def looks like a roma cut [​IMG] I think it fits abit big. Not bad at all for 188 though.
     
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    Jumbie Senior member

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    Sleeves look a bit baggy.
     
  4. neyus

    neyus Senior member

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    Major problem is that it looks like a suit coat not a sports coat. I dont think it would work as a separate.

    Perhaps you could get Zegna to make you some su misura trousers in the same cloth to match the coat
     
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    Major problem is that it looks like a suit coat not a sports coat. I dont think it would work as a separate.

    Perhaps you could get Zegna to make you some su misura trousers in the same cloth to match the coat


    whats the difference in fit b/w a sports and suit coat?
     
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    Luddite Senior member

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    Pinstripes are standard on suits; very rare on sport coats.
     
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    spence Senior member

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    To be honest, I think it's too big and too much of a suit coat. I wouldn't keep it, but that's just my opinion.

    -spence
     
  8. Master-Classter

    Master-Classter Senior member

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    A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't refuse... In my experience, I've often bought something that wasn't really good becuase the price was great. I've rarely regretted paying any amount (high) for something perfect that I loved. I think it's overall a tad big, the armholes (at the biceps) are especially wide. Maybe see if you can flip it for a bit of profit? again, since I think this needs saying. You're asking a group of highly critical and sophisicated people (read rich, picky, and have an interest in the topic)... the average person will probably look at it and say "ohh, shiny... hey nice jacket man"
     
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    contaygious Senior member

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    I have a milano that fits a lot better. It looks like it is just hanging straight down with no fit. Go for a smaller size and get some shape into it. Also, it does look like a suit coat due to the stripes and I think for Zegna you could choose from a lot better patterns/fabrics like a nice check for instance.
     
  10. clee1982

    clee1982 Senior member

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    Never liked Ermenegildo Zegna's cut personally (because I am slim and not that tall...), however it does work on a lot people. I think it works for you, except the arm is a big baggy, look great otherwise, you can have waist take in and that would work if you ask me.

    P.S., I wouldn't say it couldn't function as a sportcoat, I definitely think it can work with non matching pants.
     
  11. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    Pinstripes are standard on suits; very rare on sport coats.

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    Should somebody explain this rule to Zegna?
     
  12. literasyme

    literasyme Senior member

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    ^ Not all pinstripes are created equal. The OP's jacket looks very much like an orphaned suit jacket. The above fabrics are out-there enough to work as sport coats, esp. the DB.
     
  13. Finsen

    Finsen Senior member

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    I think that the sheen on the jacket makes it less casual, and so less of a sport coat.
     
  14. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    Thats what they are showing.


    Most of what I'm seeing in Italy makes the OPs jacket seem way out there. It's much lighter then most . Pinstripe odd jackets are so common in colours/clothes that are very main stream. Most of the wearers are making a clear choice. I'm not talking people who need to recycle a jacket.
     
  15. senator1214

    senator1214 Well-Known Member

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    kaczmar2,

    If you listen to some of the forum members (read snobs), they will have you spending ridiculous sums of money on fixing this jacket because it doesn't fit as well their $5000 Rubinacci that they flew over to Italy to have it personally tailored by Mariano himself. Unless you want to take it back to the store for a refund or to get a smaller size, just tell your tailor to do the best job possible for a reasonable price.

    Take in the waist.
    I'm not sure how much if anything they'll be able to do with the sleeves though.

    Most people will compliment you on the jacket even with minor adjustments.

    Be Well
     

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