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Please critique my Dolce & Gabanna suit - can this be fixed, or should I ebay it?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by lalaland, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. lalaland

    lalaland Well-Known Member

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    So I stupidly spent $2,000 on an OTR Dolce & Gabanna suit at Nordstrom last fall when I needed something at the last minute to go to a wedding. I'm an idiot, I know. A little planning and I could've had 4 MTM suits that fit much better for the money. And that actually is what I'm doing next - got a Thick as Thieves suit coming up, and I think I'm going to try an online MTM with local alterations next.

    In any case - the question now is what to do with this Dolce suit. I think it's too big in the waist, flares out at the hips, and overall just looks awkward. I like the one button styling, and if it fit properly I'd wear it as a sport coat with denim and an open collared shirt with no tie.

    But here's the question - it has had zero alterations except for pant hemming. The jacket is totally off the rack. I assume it's worth more $ if I sell it un-altered. But if a good alterations tailor in Los Angeles (recommendations welcomed) can tighten up the fit and make it look good then I'll keep it.

    The first picture shows a problem with the pants - the pockets bulge out. Aside from having them sewn shut how can I fix this? Not a big deal because I'd rather wear the jacket with denim anyway.

    I know it's an overpriced designer label. Learned my lesson - please spare me the flogging.
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    Here is the way the jacket hangs on me naturally - maybe the pictures don't show it but I think it looks baggy in person. I'm 6'0, 175 lbs with a 32 inch waist and I believe a 40-42 inch chest. Seems to fit very well in the chest and shoulders, but loose around the waist and the bottom of the jacket just looks very baggy in person, IMHO:
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    Here is another shot of the way it hangs without pulling it in:

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    Here I am pulling the jacket in (bunching it up) behind my back with a hand - this looks better to me - Is this the typical stuff a tailor can do - or will it mess up the jacket?

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    And lastly - why does it look wacky from the side? Is it just me or does it look like I have a shelf for an ass? I'm athletic but I don't have a giant ass in real life, I really don't:

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  2. cbbuff

    cbbuff Senior member

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    Link not working.

    Do the TaT, but I would try MTM with Samuelsohn before the online.
     
  3. lalaland

    lalaland Well-Known Member

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    Got the pics working - thanks for the feedback cbbuff. I'm excited about TAT because Alex will do the measuring in person, removing the human error component. I'll check out Samuelsohn thanks. What do you think about the salvagability of this Dolce suit?
     
  4. ballmouse

    ballmouse Senior member

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    Pockets flaring out generally means the pants are too small, not too big.
     
  5. lalaland

    lalaland Well-Known Member

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    Thanks ballmouse - but here is a pic of the pants on my waist - I think they're too big actually and need to be taken in - I think I have lost an inch in the waist since I bought the suit:

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  6. lalaland

    lalaland Well-Known Member

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    Also, I just noticed this:

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  7. dks202

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    Pants are too tight, that's what pulls the pocket open. Jacket looks OK to me, maybe a little short, shirt sleeve way too long.
     
  8. GBR

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    Sell or burn - choice is yours
     
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    Sell or burn - choice is yours
     
  10. cbbuff

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    A. Put on a fucking shirt for crying out loud.
    B. Always expect to get a RTW suit tailored. Jacket waist, sleeves, and possibly collar as well as the hem, waist, seat, crotch on trousers are all to be expected.
     
  11. bullswin

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    If you purchased this at Nordstrom, you can return it for a full refund. Their policy is fairly forgiving (even if the suit has been altered and worn).

    With $2k on the line, it's worth a shot (just make sure you have some valid reason thought out ahead of time).
     
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    +1
     
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  14. hyt123

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    The only real question in my mind is: Are you ok with a fashion-forward suit?

    The skinny lapels and short length that are "in" today will probably look outdated or even downright retarded some years from now. If you're fine with that and are young enough to pull it off then there's nothing else I see that can't be fixed by a tailor. On the other hand if the $2k was a lot of money to you and you'd rather spend that money on something with a little more longevity in both the styling and quality departments, then I'd agree with leaving it alone and selling it as-is to get some of your money back (no, don't make up a lie to take advantage of a return policy especially when neither the product nor the seller was at fault in the transaction).

    As for an L.A.-based tailor, I recommend mine -- Bill Cairo Custom Tailor in San Marino.
     
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  15. lalaland

    lalaland Well-Known Member

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    Hyt123 - I'm okay with the fashion forward look because I mix it up. I have some classic pieces, and a few more fashion forward pieces. I also tend toward simple ensembles - If I have an aggressive fashion forward piece on, the rest of my outfit tends toward complementary but conservative contrasts. Also I have multiple jackets (not as many as in the past due to an unfortunate incident with an angry ex-girlfriend and a pair of scissors, but I'm trying to consider this as a "rebuilding" opportunity) so a few can be "fun" pieces.

    Thanks for the help guys. Hyt123 - I live very near there and if I'd seen your post earlier I would've tried your guy. Instead I dropped the suit off with Harold at Novex in Beverly Hills. I tried "Charles the Tailor" but called him and he said he couldn't see me til Monday, and I'm leaving town tomorrow for a couple weeks.

    In any case, $278 later, Harold is going to:

    1. Shorten the jacket sleeves a bit
    2. Go in for surgery and narrow the shoulders of the jacket 1/4 inch on each side
    3. Take in the sides of the jacket
    4. Do something he showed me to the back of the jacket to eliminate the shelf-ass effect.
    5. Fiddle around with something in the seat or crotch of the pants to try to eliminate an effect I didn't take a picture of which makes me look - in the words of my girlfriend - like I'm wearing a maxipad.

    It seems like a lot of cash to me, but every "pinning" he demonstrated made the jacket look noticeably better, until when he was done it looked like it was painted on my body (at least compared to the mess it was when I walked in) - in a good way. I figure there are 8 separate modifications in that bill - l sleeve, r sleeve, l side, r side, l shoulder, r shoulder, jacket back, pants crotch.

    This works out to $34.75 per individual modification. A lot perhaps, but he has expensive rent in the heart of Beverly Hills, has been working since 1961 and has a reputation that he knows what he's doing.

    Hopefully I didn't get ripped off too badly.

    It did occur to me that with almost $300 in tailoring and maybe $400 in sale proceeds I could just take the $700 and get something MTM, but at this point it's an education and I'm intellectually very curious to see how much good tailoring can really change the fit of a jacket. This is a first for me.
     
  16. Snidely Whiplash

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    Well, you are certainly doing your part to boost the economy ;)
     

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