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Please build me a computer (NOT GETTING A MAC UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by SField, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. Jumbie

    Jumbie Senior member

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    I guess you get the point by now but +1 on not building your own. I build my own systems but it's really not necessary. Plus, as was said, if you don't know what you're doing there's no point and you don't have a warranty. You'll need someone to fix it if something goes wrong in any case. The big plus to building your own is complete control over the components (for those who are heavy into game or have specific technical needs) and the ability to upgrade parts more easily.

    I say buy a high end system from any manufacturer of your choosing and add a nice 3 year warranty to it so you're covered for whatever. Make sure you get in-home service. For myself, I go with the standard 1 year warranty on my laptops (unless I get more thrown in for for free via a deal/coupon) but you seem like you have the money to pay for it and the lack of patience to want stuff fixed a.s.a.p and with as little hassle as need be. Also, look into whatever extended warranty your CC may offer for any purchases. Many of them do; just make sure to read the specifics of this extension.

    Also, FWIW, I've had good luck with the Dells (only laptops) I've ever owned.
     
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    norton sucks. got nod32.
    +1 on both counts. I use Eset nod32 myself and I would recommend either this or Kaspersky for antivirus. Use this with an updated Windows System, a firewall (if you use a router, it most likely has one built in), Firefox with the Adblock Plus and maybe NoScript extensions and some common sense and you should be quite safe from 99% of what's out there on the web in terms of trojans, viruses and spyware/malware. Also, check this site for some info about the HOSTS file and how it can help to protect you - http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
     
  3. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    What Hell did you end up with?
     
  4. SField

    SField Senior member

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    What Hell did you end up with?

    some XPS thing that cost me like $2000.
     
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    I like avast for virus protection
     
  6. enjoiii

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    Meh. I know how to build computers and I don't do it for people anymore. I have a place nearby where I know the service is good, I call them and spec it out, and they build the computers and warranty them for 1 year labor/3 yrs parts, and the custom build costs like $80 (ridiculously cheap for the level of service). That is what I would do if it were for anyone but me. For myself, I would build one myself (or buy a Mac Pro and run Windows/Linux on it, since you can't come near the power for $) but if you don't know how to work on it, get a warranty.

    Huh? Macbook pro is the best power for $? Where did you get that idea from?
     
  7. MCsommerreid

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    I feel like the "build your own PC with parts" business has devolved into a bit of a racket these days. How is the end-consumer going to source components for less money than giants like Dell and HP? The answer is he's not.

    This is only somewhat true. Pre-builts tend to gouge the bejesus out of you on things like RAM and hard drive prices. 4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR2 for an upgrade price of $250, you can get the same off Newegg for $87. A 750GB 7200RPM 16MB cache hard drive upgrade comes in at $100, the same you can get on Newegg for $69. It's a little better with DDR3: 12GB of DDR3 1066 is $2100, 12GB of DDR3 1600 is $1198. Even video cards are marked up, which sort of surprised me. Upgrading to SLI GTX285 1gb is $750 ($850 or so counting the cost of the 9800GT 512), 2 GTX285s come in at $700 on NewEgg.

    It's much, much cheaper to build it yourself. However, then you have to deal with the pain in the ass that getting a DIY system to POST can be, especially if there's a DOA part or some weird RMA where everything is on individual warranties. The ability to call a company up and say "hey, its broken, fix it" can be worth the markup to some folks.
     
  8. Connemara

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    I can build you a real nasty machine for under $1K.
     
  9. Rambo

    Rambo Senior member

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    some XPS thing that cost me like $2000.
    The XPS lineup is generally geared towards gamers. Do you game?
     
  10. tiecollector

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    Why build a machine anymore? Just get a Dell on Sale. They have good warranties. Upgrade RAM and the graphics card yourself.

    I don't even bother anymore with building my own. I just buy what is prettiest.
     
  11. MCsommerreid

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    Why build a machine anymore? Just get a Dell on Sale. They have good warranties. Upgrade RAM and the graphics card yourself.

    I don't even bother anymore with building my own. I just buy what is prettiest.


    It's worth it still for very high end machines. Seems for the lower end machines the logic works out and they tend to come in either equal in price, or slightly cheaper, for what you get.
     
  12. SField

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    The XPS lineup is generally geared towards gamers. Do you game?

    No and I didn't pick any options that would really support playing games.
     
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    I like avast for virus protection
    I´m quite impressed with avast, too. Does a great job on my computer, especially for freeware.
     
  14. why

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    I feel like the "build your own PC with parts" business has devolved into a bit of a racket these days. How is the end-consumer going to source components for less money than giants like Dell and HP? The answer is he's not.

    OEM prices and low margins through volume-sellers.
     
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    It's worth it still for very high end machines. Seems for the lower end machines the logic works out and they tend to come in either equal in price, or slightly cheaper, for what you get.

    Or if you want silent and a huge case that you can fill with 2tb drives for your blue-ray collection [​IMG]

    http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...postcount=2446
     
  16. MCsommerreid

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    Or if you want silent and a huge case that you can fill with 2tb drives for your blue-ray collection [​IMG]

    http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...postcount=2446


    Perhaps "niche" would work better than "high end", cause I was including stuff like silent PCs, water cooled systems, strange form factors, case modding (even without ultra high end parts).

    Using some of the stranger form factors for silent PCs is really a lot of fun. MiniITX front end, and then some i7 beast for serving stored somewhere it can't be heard.
     
  17. Rambo

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    No and I didn't pick any options that would really support playing games.
    So then why did you choose the XPS line? Hell, for $2000 you could have gotten a Macbook Pro, free iPod touch, free printer, and had $250 left over.
     
  18. montyharding

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    I literally cannot stand computers. Money isn't much of a concern, honestly. I work on my computer and while I don't know any crazy shit I generally do have many many things going on at once (a lot of video files... porn, art films, dailies, usually a teleconference type thing, music, a lot of internet windows and programs like final draft and Reason - that one can take a lot). So, I'm tired of my laptop being too slow. Can I just buy my way to a computer that can do most of these simple things without waiting for shit to load and whatever? I want to use Windows. I don't understand UNIX or whatever it is, and no I will never get a mac. If I were to buy something with a really fast processor and a ton of ram would the damn thing just do what I ask it to do as soon as I click on it? Very recently my friend came to live with me while he was waiting for his place to be finished and he's a well respected fashion photographer. He has a computer that he used for really high flying video and photo editing and I used it for a day doing all the above things and honestly it worked like a dream. It's overkill for what I need, but it really worked. So can you guys help me buy components or point me to a brand that will make some motherfucker of a computer (I don't need gay graphics capabilities)... just something that will let me type/internet/porn/videos/everything in fucking peace? The security guard downstairs has a son at DePaul doing computer engineering or whatever and I've told him I'll hire the kid to come assemble it... but he isn't around (he's volunteering in Sri Lanka or whatever). Please help me. Thank you, much appreciated.
    Why bother building? You're not going to have the experience to build something that runs really stably. The Dell Precision workstation desktops for example - in particular the T7500 series - are screamingly fast, quiet for what they are, extremely reliable, well supported, very flexible and can be set up for either without gay graphics capabilities (NVS cards) or with gay graphics capabilities (Quadro cards, or order with lowest graphics option and pop in your own Geforce cards). http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/d...00&s=bsd&cs=04 To get something as powerful, quiet for the power, and as stable a machine you're going to have to invest a fair bit of thought - certainly well past the intermediate builder's scope - into duplicating it on a DIY. If you're after something luggable packing plenty of power the same line has the M6400, which is one of the fastest notebooks I've owned for outright productivity (with RAID0 SSD's), but not as overkill gigantic as some gaming monstrosities. Specify quad-core, gay or even gayer graphics, and leave the drive stock - and buy a couple of 250Gb SSD's to pop in there in RAID0. http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/n...d&cs=04&~ck=mn EDIT: Jeez, didn't see it had been solved with a budget machine. You'd think being the same company it'd be the same, but no - consumer XPS support is the pits and the build quality isn't that hot either. I spent one hour telling a supervisor that a wobbly keyboard was unacceptable, and he spent the same time telling me it was fine because he owned one and it was like that too.
     
  19. IB240996

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    I build custom computers if that's what you're into. If you're in NYC and are interested let me know.
     
  20. SField

    SField Senior member

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    Why bother building? You're not going to have the experience to build something that runs really stably. The Dell Precision workstation desktops for example - in particular the T7500 series - are screamingly fast, quiet for what they are, extremely reliable, well supported, very flexible and can be set up for either without gay graphics capabilities (NVS cards) or with gay graphics capabilities (Quadro cards, or order with lowest graphics option and pop in your own Geforce cards). http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/d...00&s=bsd&cs=04 To get something as powerful, quiet for the power, and as stable a machine you're going to have to invest a fair bit of thought - certainly well past the intermediate builder's scope - into duplicating it on a DIY. If you're after something luggable packing plenty of power the same line has the M6400, which is one of the fastest notebooks I've owned for outright productivity (with RAID0 SSD's), but not as overkill gigantic as some gaming monstrosities. Specify quad-core, gay or even gayer graphics, and leave the drive stock - and buy a couple of 250Gb SSD's to pop in there in RAID0. http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/n...d&cs=04&~ck=mn EDIT: Jeez, didn't see it had been solved with a budget machine. You'd think being the same company it'd be the same, but no - consumer XPS support is the pits and the build quality isn't that hot either. I spent one hour telling a supervisor that a wobbly keyboard was unacceptable, and he spent the same time telling me it was fine because he owned one and it was like that too.
    So XPS is actually shit? Someone here said it's like their high performance line? If it isn't as good I have someone who can use it and I'll just get something better. I am not going to tolerate waiting for anything. EDIT: I just looked at the machines you linked to, and the XPS one I ordered seems to have a lot more power than any of those. I ordered 8 GB of ram and a faster processor. I didn't buy a monitor from dell nor any accessories whatsoever so I guess that's why the price was low. Or wait, are the duo core only for XPS? It looks like this one is a quadrouple one and i don't remember the XPS one saying Xeon. So is this really better?
     

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