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Pinned collars

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by KD1, Oct 16, 2004.

  1. KD1

    KD1 New Member

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    I have a few questions about pinned collars, regarding which I have been unable to find any information in previous threads.

    Is there a standard, classic tie pin?
    What kind of collar is best with a tie pin?
    Is it better to get the shirts that have the pre-made holes or not?
    Are there occasions in which it is not appropriate to wear a tie pin? If so, what are they?
    Any recommendations on where to buy a tie pin, and the appropriate price range?

    I would appreciate any feedback.
     


  2. Manton

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    I found an antique sterling silver collar pin on ebay that I bought for about $4 because no one else bid on it. It is in two parts, one side with a ball-end "tube" and one side with a ball-end "stick" and they fit together. It seems the very easiest possible type of collar pin.

    I still have not used it as I have no pin collars, but the usual collar I have seen with pre-sewn holes is a rounded ("Eton, club") collar. A regular point collar can easily have holes added by a competent tailor; this should cost you very little as there are machine attachments to do it.
     


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    Will Distinguished Member Dubiously Honored

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    Try an Eton collar shirt (with rounded points) with a pin. A nice look, in my opinion.

    When you wash a shirt that was pinned, the holes will close up. Collars with holes sewn for the pin are the shirting equivalent of wearing braces on trousers with belt loops. You can do it, but it looks awkward.

    Will
     


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    That depends on the type of pin you intend to use. With the sharp "big safety pin" type, it might look odd. But with the screw-end type or the push-together type I described, you have no other option.
     


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    The holes made by gold safety pins, the only acceptable kind in my opinion, do not cause undue wear on shirt collars. Shirtmakers replace collars and cuffs at a nominal price anyway.

    In menswear in general, mechanisms intended to visibly avoid wear should be shunned.

    If necessary, anxiety is avoided altogether with a tab.

    Will
     


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    This is the absolute truth. I stopped wearing them for this reason. I love the way they look, but it just takes way too long to get them right...
     


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    Paul Stuart has a great collection of collar pins, in sterling, gold, etc.
     


  12. Will

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    No doubt the same Flusser who writes in CaM that "there is no need to worry about putting pionholes in your shirt collar, as after washing the hsirt, the hole will naturally close up."

    Will
     


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    The best way to get the collar pin correctly placed is to have your shirtmaker mark the position while you are wearing the shirt. Then s/he should sew the proper eyelets.
    Avoid eyelets for collar pins because they'll prevent destruction of your collar? Balderdash. Poppycock. And so forth.
     


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    Mr. Kabbaz, what collar type, shape and size would you recommend be used if one intends to pin it?
     


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    Points should be spread no more than 2-2.25". As I think Will said, you don't want the pin forcing the collar together. \\
     


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