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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    This seems truer to the spirit of the OP

    [​IMG]


    Wow. A direction attack. Unprecedented.
     
  2. zjpj83

    zjpj83 Senior member

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    They made me another suit in the right cloth. The unfinished suit is sitting in Naples, awaiting available funds.

    too bad about law bonuses this year
     
  3. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Not at all cryptic.

    - B


    I didn't get it, honestly.
     
  4. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    too bad about law bonuses this year

    Yeah. Crushing. At least I'm not at Latham . . .
     
  5. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yeah. Crushing. At least I'm not at Latham . . .
    There are still twelve days left...
     
  6. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    I didn't get it, honestly.

    Have a glass or three of Schilcher and it will all become clear.


    - B
     
  7. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    I didn't get it, honestly.

    Just ask Vox [​IMG]
     
  8. mafoofan

    mafoofan Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    There are still twelve days left...

    Worst holiday season ever.
     
  9. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    They made me another suit in the right cloth. The unfinished suit is sitting in Naples, awaiting available funds.

    That's fascinating...I guess it is too much to expect them to just finish it off for you gratis like Edwin did for me on those trousers.

    What would they do with it if you decided you didn't want it? Store mannequin at the flagship Carlyle location?


    - B
     
  10. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just ask Vox [​IMG]

    He told me to start drinking. Which is easy for him to say, it is not even 2:30 on the West Coast.
     
  11. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    Have a glass or three of Schilcher and it will all become clear.

    Truth spoken.

    You never fails to surprise me in a good way. [​IMG]
     
  12. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Worst holiday season ever.

    Low pound. Low Euro. Low gasoline prices.

    I'm diggin' it.


    - B
     
  13. fritzl

    fritzl Senior member

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    He told me to start drinking. Which is easy for him to say, it is not even 2:30 on the West Coast.

    Schilcher is "not" drinking. Schilcher is Schilcher, you love it or hate it. But it can bring up the truth.

    It descends from Arnies motherland. Try it, and let "us" know.

    PS: Just to give you an idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schilcher Go for it.
     
  14. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    He told me to start drinking. Which is easy for him to say, it is not even 2:30 on the West Coast.

    You don't do the mid morning ombra out there, or the 11:35AM Yankee G&T?

    - B
     
  15. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Senior member

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    I probably shouldn't comment since my bespoke experiences are all of the Hong Kong variety, rather than the highbrow stuff you guys deal with.

    That said, my limited experience is that the less input I've tried to have into the process, the better the result. The longer my list of requirements ahead of time, the worse the result and the worse my satisfaction with the end product. I'm not certain whether those exactly correlate or whether other factors were more important (i.e. different tailors = different experiences).

    I have one suit that I'm still struggling with despite the fact that the tailor has already completely remade the jacket once for me at his cost (and at his suggestion after hearing how disappointed I was in how it looked). I ordered it last March and it was supposed to take about a six weeks to complete. It wasn't really wearable until recently and it's back in his shop again because I'm just not comfortable with the fit. It was probably a good lesson that trying to micromanage the process just doesn't work that well.

    I had one shirt that I ordered that I wanted done in a particular cloth (a blue glen plaid with a blue overcheck), a white spread collar and self French cuffs. It came back in a slightly different cloth than I ordered (a brownish overcheck instead of the dark blue) and with white french cuffs. I lived with the difference in the fabric, but sent the shirt back for the right cuffs. When it came back, the cuffs were self colored, but were button instead of french. I kept it, but honestly don't wear it that much.
     
  16. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Schilcher is "not" drinking. Schilcher is Schilcher, you love it or hate it. But it can bring up the truth.

    It descends from Arnies motherland. Try it, and let "us" know.

    PS: Just to give you an idea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schilcher Go for it.


    Where I come from, alcohol = "drinking".
     
  17. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    You don't do the mid morning ombra out there, or the 11:35AM Yankee G&T?

    - B


    No, I don't have a trust fund to fall back on, so I need to be productive until at least late afternoon.
     
  18. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    I have one suit that I'm still struggling with despite the fact that the tailor has already completely remade the jacket once for me at his cost (and at his suggestion after hearing how disappointed I was in how it looked). I ordered it last March and it was supposed to take about a six weeks to complete. It wasn't really wearable until recently and it's back in his shop again because I'm just not comfortable with the fit. It was probably a good lesson that trying to micromanage the process just doesn't work that well.

    I had one shirt that I ordered that I wanted done in a particular cloth (a blue glen plaid with a blue overcheck), a white spread collar and self French cuffs. It came back in a slightly different cloth than I ordered (a brownish overcheck instead of the dark blue) and with white french cuffs. I lived with the difference in the fabric, but sent the shirt back for the right cuffs. When it came back, the cuffs were self colored, but were button instead of french. I kept it, but honestly don't wear it that much.


    Wow.

    Good thing you're a man of faith. I would have exploded into a fire-breathing agnostic inferno, and torn limbs would have been everywhere.


    - B
     
  19. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    No, I don't have a trust fund to fall back on, so I need to be productive until at least late afternoon.

    Don't confuse Calvinism (of either Calvin) with productivity.

    If you ever do write a speech for Romney, inebriation can only help.


    - B
     
  20. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Senior member

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    Wow.

    Good thing you're a man of faith. I would have exploded into a fire-breathing agnostic inferno, and torn limbs would have been everywhere.


    - B


    I wasn't all that happy with either. On the shirt one, I looked at it as I had bought a dozen or so shirts from them that I was happy with and one that didn't work out that well.

    On the suit...I'm still trying to decide what to do. The dollars involved are much greater (obviously). The guy is a local guy here in Dallas that has a workshop in Hong Kong where everything gets done. He's done lots of shirts for me and was good on those. He talked me into letting him do some trousers and those went fine. Then he talked me into the suit and that's when things went down hill. The jacket is the problem. The trousers are great, the vest is fine (not spectacular, but fine), the jacket is sketchy. But he is just busting his hump to try to make me happy...I'm just getting "deal fatigue" on it.

    I recently gave the guy a second chance and let him do an overcoat for me. Other than the fact that I'm skeptical about the long-term durability of the fabric he recommended, I really like the coat. However, it was a polo coat that I didn't want to be closely fitted, so I'm fairly happy with how it turned out.

    It has less to do with being a "man of faith" and more to do with being a pushover.

    EDIT: BTW, just to be clear, the shirt problem and the suit problem were with two different tailors.
     

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