People's Views on Shoe "Seconds"

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  1. Augusto86

    Augusto86 Sean Penn's Mexican love child

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    Found this site that sells 'seconds' of high-end shoe brands - stuff that didn't make it past QC for whatever reason. Anybody have experience with this? Good/bad/utter madness?
    http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/
     


  2. skalogre

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    Found this site that sells 'seconds' of high-end shoe brands - stuff that didn't make it past QC for whatever reason. Anybody have experience with this? Good/bad/utter madness?
    http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/


    I have looked at it a few times... may be a good deal, not sure.
     


  3. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

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    I have 5 or so pairs of seconds, including seconds (and own brand perfects) bought from Herring shoes.

    I have no issue with them at all, and have been very happy with my purchases. The faults have been very minor cosmetic ones such as a scratch in the leather inflicted during manufacture, and in my opinion have been easily the sort of thing that could be done on a first wearing, so why pay full price?

    I routinely try to get my chosen shoes as seconds now rather than pay full price, and the only reason for altering that policy is if the perfects come up somewhere heavily reduced.

    Herring shoes themselves are superb, very helpful, fast and reliable. They will despatch immediately, and UK customers will receive within 2 days max. They give bags, polish and a horn with every pair, as well as a no quibble return if you are unhappy. One of the family personally examines each pair to ensure the "fault" is acceptable, and in the case of my first purchase, they even cut the price as they thought the 2 tiny 1mm deep cuts on the inside of the heel, just above the sole (totally unseen when wearing) were worse than normal.

    They are also about to have a major expansion of their own brand, which are at present Loake 1880 based, but with improved specs, and will include Sargent based products. I already have one of the very first pairs of their Sargent based shoes, a cream/tan spectator, which unlike the Sargent branded version is fully leather lined. Not bad for the same money as Pediwear charges for the inferior branded version, which itself is well below High Street prices. (£90 against £130)

    I recommend Herring shoes unreservedly, and to anyone on a budget the same applies for seconds in general.
     


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    FWIW, Herring shipping charges:

    UK & Republic of Ireland
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    £6.95 per pair

    EUROPE
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    £15 per pair

    Outside EU e.g. USA, Canada, Australia & Japan
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    £23 per pair
     


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    seanandnik Senior member

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    I have a pair of John Lobb opera shoes(black velvet slip-on loafers) They are @ $1000 if perfect and I paid $210 for my 2nds and I have tried and tried but cannot find the defect, so worth it? I think so.
     


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    If the defect is minor (i.e., not apparent and does not affect comfort/fit) then who cares?
     


  7. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

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    Freakseam, if you dig deeper on the Herring site you will see that the listed rates have been replaced with free postage and package to the UK for all shoes, and free worldwide for Churchs I think.

    Factory shops are a good source of seconds, and I have a few pairs bought from the Crockett & Jones factory, which at around £80-100 a pair are a real steal.
     


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    I don't see any Lobb for sale on the website. Seems that their highest grade stuff is Church's.
     


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    Found this site that sells 'seconds' of high-end shoe brands - stuff that didn't make it past QC for whatever reason. Anybody have experience with this? Good/bad/utter madness?
    http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/

    I just received a pair of chestnut Loake Wells seconds from Herring Shoes. I was a bit worried that they would have some very noticable flaw, but the only flaw I could detect was a slight scuff on the top of the welt at the front of the left shoe. Noticable if you know it is there, quite unnoticable otherwise. However, this is something that could very well have happened on the first outdoor wearing, so I am quite happy with the 44% off. [​IMG]
     


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    With the Loakes, can you not get those at CT with the 50% off for the same price? Maybe not the whole range, but I would think that is the better option.
     


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    With the Loakes, can you not get those at CT with the 50% off for the same price? Maybe not the whole range, but I would think that is the better option.
    Even with the 50% off, the CT shoes still seems to be more expensive than their Loake counterparts. For instance, the CT "Norwich" appears to cost 147.50 GBP with 50% off (if I did that whole 50%-entrypage-URL thing right), whereas the Loake Norwich costs 119.95 GBP at Pediwear.

    Hmmm, I just checked and it seems as if the CT "Norwich" costs 180 GBP without the 50% off. So I guess it isn't 50% off for all prices [​IMG]
     


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    Maybe the link was off, but i just checked the same shoes you mentioned. The CT Norwich are $295, but $147.50 with the discount page. I think that is the same as the link above, but they are first rate.
     


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    Maybe the link was off, but i just checked the same shoes you mentioned. The CT Norwich are $295, but $147.50 with the discount page. I think that is the same as the link above, but they are first rate.
    Then Pediwear beats them with 27.55 GBP (and that is for first rate shoes - sorry, I was a bit unclear at that). Seconds go for 75 GBP over at Herring Shoes.
     


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    But it's 147 USD for the Norwich from CT, not GBP
     


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    I have a pair of John Lobb opera shoes(black velvet slip-on loafers) They are @ $1000 if perfect and I paid $210 for my 2nds and I have tried and tried but cannot find the defect, so worth it? I think so.
    Where did you get these Lobbs?
     


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