people who bitch about tipping are scum?

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  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What about if you are at Per Se and your food costs $300 and you get a bottle of Petrus for $1000 are you expected to tip 20% of $1300?
     


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    I prefer that approach but many people dont like it. I dont give a shit. If they suggest a meal and if they take out a card and say nothing, I pull mine out. If they say I'll get this, I will invite them and reciprocate. If I invite first, I demand to pay and set the path unless they insist on splitting it. People are wierd, what can you do?

    What is REALLY tacky, to Graphite's point, is separate checks. Thats bullshit. And AGAIN, its WOMEN that do it most. I always refused. Some people made a big stink out of it. So what. I knew I was getting shafted anyway so fuck it. I would say "I am happy to calculate everyone's portion equally but I do not keep track of what each person orders".
     


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    Teger Senior member

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    at the "high end" restaurant's I've been to (not really high end) - the service is part of the set price.

    anyway honestly worst than arguing about tipping is arguing about splitting a bill. i honestly refuse to eat with people who quibble over $1.50 because they didn't order as expensive of an appetizer.
     


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    idfnl Senior member

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    If you have to think about this then no. If you can afford the Petrus, then yes, that bottle just cost you $1200 my man.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    While I understand this logic. I am curious to know what is actually being done out there in this situation.
     


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    Teger Senior member

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    ive always thought that if you're ordering an expensive bottle of wine you dont tip for alcohol
     


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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have heard both things. I don't know what is common, however.

    So if somebody bitched about tipping on a $1000 bottle of wine, would they, in fact, be scum?
     
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    idfnl Senior member

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    No no, you pay. I dont ever recall anyone ordering a huge bottle that didnt pay. I have served many $$ wines and nobody ever did that to me.

    Most restaurants report income now at 15% of your SALES to the IRS, so basically you are being taxed on that bottle of wine. Basically, yes, if you showboat like that with $1000 and dont pay you're scum.
     
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    Redwoood Senior member

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    Many people don't tip on taxes or drinks.
    Personally, I think whatever justification they offer for this behaviour is just as arbitrary as anything else that has to do with tipping.
     


  10. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    that is what i mean by bill dissection.
     


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    Stazy Senior member

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    In my group of friends, the exservers tend to be the best tippers regardless of sex, race, sexuality.
     
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    I'm kind of with you on everything you've said on this thread (I recommend a movie called "Waiting" which basically covers most of this from the servers' perspective), but I do have one question. If I buy a bottle of wine for $100 and I tip 20%, then I tip $20. If I buy a bottle of wine for $1,000 and tip 20% then I tip $200. On the assumption that when you tip you're really paying your server for the service he has provided, what additional service did I get that warrants the additional $180? Aside from the fact that if I'm throwing down a thousand dollars on wine then I can afford the 200 dollar tip that is.

    Put another way, if you're working a table and that table orders three bottles of wine for $100 each and your buddy is working a table which orders one bottle of wine for $400, wouldn't it bug you that you did more work than he did, but he got $80 and you got $60 despite both tables being equally "generous" with their tip? The thing is with food, if you go to a restaurant where the food costs you $150 a head, then chances are the service you're getting will be excellent - like three people busing your table, a server, a sommelier and a maitre d', while if you go to a restaurant that costs $30 a head for food, then you get one server, it makes sense that you tip significantly more at the more expensive one because of that better quality of service. I don't see the same thing being true of wine though.

    That said, if it was me, I most likely would tip the 20% on the full cost of the meal, wine included.
     


  13. Johnny_5

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    Nothing pisses me off more than someone who is a lousy tipper, especially the people who try to justify the shitty tip with some backwards ass logic.

    Last week I had knee surgery so I am either in a wheelchair or on crutches, and this past weekend was my girlfriends birthday. Since, I was in a lot of pain we had to postpone our original plans until October so we went to a great local restaurant instead. When we approached the door of the restaurant the manager/bartender (who was off duty) and another waiter who eventually became our waiter ran outside to help us. Everyone was so freaking accommodating helping me with my crutches and pulling a chair across so I could put my foot up on it (out of sight of course). As our meal progressed the service was on point, the waiter was very knowledgeable about the food, and the kitchen made a custom dish for my girlfriend. The waiter put a candle in my girlfriends dessert and bought us an additional dessert that blew our minds. In my opinion that was excellent service that went above and beyond any expectations.

    The check was $152 and I tipped $55.
     
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    scarphe Senior member

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    the same thing could be said for any service at restaurant whether the the supposed tip or service charge is 20 15 or 10%. if you order a dish that costs 60 euros and another idiot ordered a pasta dish that costs 20 you are paying triple for the same exact work.
     
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    high five johnny.

    we do focus a lot on the negative aspects of both serving, dining, and shitty diners. this is uplifting to hear the other end of the spectrum.

    you deserved top notch service and got it. the servers deserved a nice tip, and got it. everyone wins.
     
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