people who bitch about tipping are scum?

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  1. graphite

    graphite Senior member

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    the 18-20% is the commonly accepted standard in the us. i was just illustrating a discrepancy in the percentage system based on the varying costs of the bill. no, i don't expect anyone to overtip on a cheap order b/c i'm used to more expensive tables or higher tips. but i do expect you to be less demanding and leave faster so the server can flip the table for more and (better) customers than you.
     


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    I agree with you on the 40% tip rate..

    High earners are taxed that amount in the UK to give you a comparison...
     


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    yup, this is accurate in my experiences. groups of women are in always the worst. gay men tend to exhibit more class.


    it also matters the age of the groups of women. look for the college-aged women, say undergrads. those are the ones with the bloated sense of entitlement and spent the majority of their lives as daddy's princess. they will also be the ones that have a laundry list of made-up allergies or special dietary "needs."
     
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    You are right, I've never been to an Applebees. Stil, there is so much anxiety in this thread. Tipping below 15% and above 25% is, in my opinion, a mistake. I know the 40% tippers think that they are being cool big guys, but they are just silly and end up looking like try-hards. Of course, if you are comped, or whatever, you should adjust so as to bring the tip for the server to what it would have been had you paid for the extras. None of this is hard, it is all pretty mechanical.
     


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    I told you all back on page 2 or 3, women are the worst shit tippers. ESPECIALLY when a man waits on them.

    And yes, gay men tend to be the best tippers of all across race and religion. 2nd tend to be a man taking a woman on a date. 1st or 2nd date is the best tip. When they get the pusseh it tends to wain. 3rd best are tables of business men.

    But women, pfff, what a load of hags, worse when they are together as a group. Many believe blacks, europeans and jews are the worst tippers, but thats not the case.

    With blacks, the majority tip apporpriately to well, its the ones that show up in gold chains with loud ass long fingernailed girlfriends that tip like shit.

    Europeans fuck you, and most KNOW it. They just dont want to pay service. Luckily you may only see someone like this every so often. Not a big loss.

    Another category of regularly shitty tippers are vacationing families. Dad, mom and the kids. Want to keep costs down. These types showd up in DC around June and disappeared in Aug.

    In May you get the prom kids. I always added the service onto the check and told them when I put it down even if the restaurant had a policy against it. I didnt care. You will never get a correct tip unless they are wealthy kids whose parents educated them.

    Jews tend to tip 15% pre tax across the board. They usually split the check. You can bend over backwards twice and you'll never get a penny more. The times I was shafted for 10% or extra for 20% cancelled eachother out. 90% of the time it was 15%.

    I got so good at this that we'd make bets on the tip % when customers sat down, nobody would bet me after a while, ha ha.

    Some may read this post as sexist and biggoted, please dont, its not, its just simple observation over thousands of tables. Someone should do a thesis on it, bet it would match ^^^ exactly.
     
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    I'm Jewish, never split checks, and always tip 20%. Entire family same way, so take that as you will.
     


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    My father always pays in cash. Always, regardless of what he buys. When he eats out he basically tips "up" over 20% so he can get up and leave and not wait for change. I generally have followed that lead in restaurants, except if I am tipping like $100, or $50 over the 20%. Money is enough of an object for me.
     
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    Its not true for everyone Matt, please dont read into it.

    I can promise you that my math is accurtate, though - in my area, in the places I worked. In fact, I am countering the stereotype that exists that Jewish people tip badly. They do not. They tip a certain amount, generally without bias towards the level of the service. Nothing wrong with that.

    Eventually a brother will post "hey, I wear big gold chains and my GF is louder than a megaphone and I tip 20". Its a clear enough pattern to notice.
     
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    What's wrong with splitting checks?
     


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    He can't stand sitting there and babbling on about who got what and splitting, he just pays it. I remember him saying this once.
     
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    Actually, I almost never saw this happen. If it happened it was usually a table of women. The rule on splitting checks is 50 50 regardless.

    Nothing at all wrong with splitting checks. I do it with some folks.
     


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    Heh, that's the exact same calculus my Chinese friend uses to tip. This is despite (or maybe because?) the fact he's worked in the restaurant business since high school.
     


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    Most people I eat with, I eat with regularly. Easier just to take turns. If everybody wants to just throw in their card, fine. I find bill dissection to be pretty tacky, so I avoid it.
     


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    splitting checks is an inconvenience.

    splitting 2 or maybe even 3 ways is somewhat acceptable, especially if the bill (say, over 100) warrants it.

    the worst case type scenario is a table of six, each ordering like one drink and one entree, and all 6 wanting their own check. it is a waste of time to spend ringing each order up at the credit card machine (a very busy machine, and usually there is only one) and the other servers will hate you for it.

    people who are very cheap want to split checks. poor people want to split checks. big groups of women want to split checks.



    the stranger ones are ones where people want to split a check at weird percentages. say, a table of 3 people, will ask for 3 separate checks, and want it split like 15%, 45%, and 40%. this is just weird and some added annoyance. these are customers who think they are doing you a favor by itemizing the check up themselves.
     
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    yes i find this to be somewhat true, minus the comment about jews tipping a solid 15% across the board. this is a hard one to judge (for me) b/c unless they are donning religious gear, i can't pick them out from the crowd.

    i also live/work in an area that is a predominantly wealthy jewish community, so maybe that throws it off.


    you forgot indians and asians. if i had to sum it up, the worst tippers on average would be: women, indians, then asians.

    best tippers would be men on dates, gay men, then men.
     


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