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People do not care about clothes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by ernest, Nov 30, 2004.

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  1. ernest

    ernest Senior member

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    I am always surprised to see how many people do not care about their clothes at all.

    Many just wear them to protect from cold.

    Many just buy "a brand" for making think they have money and taste and thus impressing people.

    I do not buy clothes to impress anybody.

    I like nice wool, fine cashmer, nice work on clothes...

    I do not care about brands.

    I buy if the quality is good, the price fair.

    Some brands are supposed to be a guarantee for quality, that's why I may prefer some brands to others (I will buy an H&K shirts and not a shirt from Pink).

    The only aim of life is pleasure.

    Clothes are one of the most important pleasure, simply because you are dressed 24/24 H.

    So how can people have pleasure with craps like Boss makes ? Worse, how can they pay more for their craps than what I pay for my nice garments?

    How can someone pays $70 for a simple cotton t-shirt with DIOR on it or pick up a Diesel jeans at $150 or Nike shoes at $150 ?

    How can this person find expensive a cashmer
    sweater at $700 or Lobb shoes at $900 ?

    Do you agree with my point of view?

    People are stupid and this is our chance as we can look better for not much money....

    If everybody was wearing Brioni suits, Weston shoes, JL watches, and cashmer jumper it would be less bargain during sales for aware people.
     


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    drizzt3117 Senior member

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    Wow... talk about stream of consciousness...

    I generally agree with a few caveats...

    Some people aren't concerned with the quality of the garments if they aren't wearing them often. Durability is not too much of a concern if you're wearing something a couple times a year, at most.

    Also, appearance is in the eye of the beholder, some people really like the look of Boss. That doesn't make them ill-informed if they don't like Brioni, it just means they like the look of Boss.
     


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    Quality is not always connected with durability, for exemple a wool jumper will last more than a cashmer one in general.

    If these people do not wear their garment often, are they linving naked? Because I have been wearing my garment 24/24 since my birth.
     


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    How many people among these who buy Boss are aware of the existance of Brioni?

    What has Boss what they can not find in any other brands of better quality like Brioni, Lanvin, faconnable, Kiton, Carneliani, Canali, Oxxford...?
     


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    First of all, I don't think Boss is lower quality than Facconnalle, secondly, Boss is a more fashion-forward brand than any of the ones you mentioned, with the possible exception of Canali Proposta. While certainly Boss isn't the highest quality product, it certainly appeals to a younger demographic than some of the products you mentioned. You may want to compare it to Helmut Lang, Jil Sander, Dior Homme, rather than some of the tailored clothing brands, IMO of course. I have quite a few Boss items and enjoy them.

    People don't wear some of those items often because they have alot of clothes. I could easily wear a different outfit every day of the year with what I currently have in my wardrobe.
     


  6. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Um... wierd...

    I like slamming other people's bad taste as much as the next guy, but often tastes in clothing reflects specific aesthetic sensibilities. Some people like Brioni suits because it makes them feel like James Bond, some people prefer Attolini suits because of the handwork, some prefer Dolce & Gabbana (not shabby handiwork there, either, btw, because of the agressive cut. I personally like the look and feel of jeans, and prefer to wear Puma Mihara's or Adidas Samoas because frankly, because I think a man who wears bespoke Lobbs with his jeans looks primed for a crunchie (that's a wedgie with rocks shoved in the drawers, for those who went to more genteel elementary schools than I).

    And what is it with you and Boss? It's not that bad a product. Granted, it's not the best quality, and I find the styling in both their tailored clothing and sportswear mindnumbingly boring, but it fits a lot of people rather well; and because not everyone has the luxury of looking for deals all day (because they are working) it is the best they can afford.
     


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    You do not understand me. When I talk about quality, I do not think about 1 garment in the wardrobe but for ALL the wardrobe...

    I guess you have never seen a Albert Goldberg suit or shirt otherwise you would'nt compare them with Boss.

    More fashionable? What does it mean? How can a suit or a white shirt be fashionable?

    Why being in fashion?

    Boss or any basic product of any designer is the same for me. It is just marketing. Just be in fashion to make think you have money and taste.
     


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    As I never fail to remind myself, for goodness sake they are only clothes. So most people don't care about clothes? No big deal to me. As long as you enjoy what you are wearing. I get equal enjoyment out of my super-duper 150s Kiton suit as I do my $10 Bonds black tee. What I would not want to become is one of those trophy hunters, widely found in the wine world who have complete sets of 1945-2002 Mouton-Rothschild or 1951-1999 Grange and no intention of drinking them.
     


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    May be if you were less on forums, you could have more times...

    False as for less money you can find much better if you are a little smart and aware of where to buy.
     


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    Agreed.

    Many people will buy rubbish if it has a "designer label" obviously displayed somewhere on it. This is perhaps due to a lack of knowledge and any form of guidance as to what to look for and who supplies quality items that are worth paying more for. I have never been interested in designer labels, but I have dressed poorly in the past due to this lack of knowledge I describe, and this is where the Style forum, etc. come in, as I have learned lots from the members. Not only about what is a quality item, and where to get them, but also how to get them for amazing prices. I actually find it wonderful fun to search for these items knowing that if I work at it a bit I can get a real bargain.
     


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    I like jeans but I will not wear a jean of $15 (bad quality) or a jean of $150 (marketing trap).
     


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    Not everyone has the time or the energy to search high and low for deals on what they want. They'd rather buy that clothing, even at retail, and then actually wear it to whatever activities they deem fun.

    In other words, people have different priorities. You may get pleasure from buying a E1,000 jumper for E100, even if it takes visiting 20 stores and waiting six months. Someone else might just want to buy $150 jeans at full price and wear them to a bar right away. Chacun a son gout.
     


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    How can someone pays  $70 for a simple cotton t-shirt with DIOR on it or pick up a Diesel jeans at $150 or Nike shoes at $150 ?
    Agreed. Many people will buy rubbish if it has a "designer label" obviously displayed somewhere on it. This is perhaps due to a lack of knowledge and any form of guidance as to what to look for and who supplies quality items that are worth paying more for. I have never been interested in designer labels, but I have dressed poorly in the past due to this lack of knowledge I describe, and this is where the Style forum, etc. come in, as I have learned lots from the members. Not only about what is a quality item, and where to get them, but also how to get them for amazing prices. I actually find it wonderful fun to search for these items knowing that if I work at it a bit I can get a real bargain.
    When one knows that these items costs 10 time less, how can one pay so much?
     


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    Who's to say the $150 jeans are a marketing trap? Mine have lasted longer, and make me happier, than $35 Levis 501s. I'd have liked them even if they were a no-name label.
     


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    As someone who actually knows, and is not just f**king around. Faconnable is sort of like a French Brooks Brothers - preppy a la francaise. They actually had a store in Beverly Hills for a while, which closed - I assume because no one cared for the style. Boss is a much more directional brand, and appeals to a much wider demographic. The quality of Faconnable products is a little higher, but still comparable to Boss products in the European market.

    And there are considerable differences between a grey suit and a white shirt that go just beyond just the handiwork: the fabric, the cut, the details. The same goes for a suit. Put a Huntsman jacket next to an Attolini next to a Costume National, and you will see the difference. Put a Prada shirt next to a Ralph Lauren Purple Label next to a Brioni - same deal.

    If you can't tell the difference and appreciate them, then I understand why you are unemployed. BTW, your picture is still not up in the members section Ernest. What's the hold up.? We know your mom has a digital camera.
     


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