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Pennsylvania and their ridiculous liquor laws.

FLMountainMan

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This is hilarious.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/p...in-wine-vendi/

PA Walmart stores getting CCTV-enabled, breathalyzin' wine vending machines
By Joseph L. Flatley posted Dec 8th 2010 4:01PM
Whenever technology is used to solve a real problem, it warms our hearts. It really does. But when technological perambulations are needed to work their way around antiquated state liquor laws (the likes of which have tormented at least one poor Engadget editor since he reached the age of majority), it just seems sad. For instance, it's illegal to sell alcohol in grocery stores in Pennsylvania, but it's not illegal to install a vending machine that dispenses wine: as long as the user is asked to take a breathalyzer test, swipe their state issued ID or Driver License, and then show their mug to a state official sitting somewhere in Harrisburg, who is keeping an eye on the proceedings via CCTV. Simple, right? Maybe not, but it does protect the state's monopoly on liquor sales. The Pronto wine vending machine is currently only available in select grocery stores in the state, but it's just been announced that the PA Liquor Control Board has given Walmart preliminary approval to put the things in some of their locations outside of Pittsburgh. We'll try one out ourselves, as soon as they start carrying Blue Nun.
 

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There's also something about how beer can only be sold by the case or sixpack, something like that.

I mean it isn't like they live in a state where you can't buy alcohol on a sunday, or before 1230 on Sundays, or beer above 14% alcohol but you can buy everclear...or you know, more shit.
 

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Originally Posted by edinatlanta
There's also something about how beer can only be sold by the case or sixpack, something like that.

I mean it isn't like they live in a state where you can't buy alcohol on a sunday, or before 1230 on Sundays, or beer above 14% alcohol but you can buy everclear...or you know, more shit.


I'll tell you what, buying by the case is underrated. Now that I live outside the commonwealth I dearly miss the cost efficiency. $15 for a 12-pack when I used to be able to get a full 30 for the same price hurts.
 

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Indiana is ridiculous tool. Try going to school here...
 

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Originally Posted by Dashaansafin
Indiana is ridiculous tool. Try going to school here...

What? There are hardly any liquor laws in Indiana that border on ridiculous. Aside from some counties being dry.
 

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Their bars close at 2AM; that is ridiculous - I usually don't even go to bars until 1.30ish, couldn't imagine that being last call.
 

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Originally Posted by Biscotti
Their bars close at 2AM; that is ridiculous - I usually don't even go to bars until 1.30ish, couldn't imagine that being last call.

On behalf of my home state, please allow me to apologize sincerely for the huge issues we've caused your social life.
 

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you 'merkuns and your ridiculous liquor laws... 1st time I bought alcohol I was 13, entered a seedy bar and asked the waitress what they bottle they could sell me takeout with the money I had. brought back a bottle of $2 rum.
 

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Sounds like the sold you the good stuff!
 

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As far as PA beer laws, being able to do takeout as you leave the bar is real nice, especially compared to CO where last call is 2am and liquor stores close at midnight. The case discount is also nice compared to where I live now not to mention being able to buy Yuengling or Lion's Head instead of Pabst or something.

But overall, not fun to work around.
 

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Having lived here in PA all my life I cannot defend our liquor laws. That's what we get for being founded by a bunch of Quakers.


I was in Tennessee a while back and one of the residents told me that the Jack Daniels distillery is located in a dry county. I guess that way the county can reap the tax benefits of something they view as a sin and keep it out of their local population at the same time.


The recently elected governor has mentioned that he would like to de-regulate PA's liquor industry so let's see what happens when he takes office ....
 

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WA laws are terrible too, though not as ridiculous as PA. Bars close at 2:00am but are fined if anyone is still inside after that time, so last call goes anywhere from 1:15am-1:40am and bars will totally patronize you by saying its 20 minutes later than it really is. They'll throw you out if you run around yelling the real time (= Its infuriating.

Any place that serves beer outside has to be corralled in by a fence or raised off the street. (think of the CHILDREN!). We actually had a chance to break the state monopoly this year but some interest groups put out a bunch of commercials about teenagers freely buying booze from convenience stores and dying in crashes. Super. So naturally it didnt pass.
 

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Originally Posted by Biscotti
Their bars close at 2AM; that is ridiculous - I usually don't even go to bars until 1.30ish, couldn't imagine that being last call.

I thought that most all states' bars closed at 2am. I knew a few stayed open later, but everywhere I know about, it's all 2am.
 

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DC bars close at 3 AM, but 2 AM is hardly unusual. That's the time VA bars close.
 

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There is a distillery in Woodinville (about 10 miles from me) who is allowed to make liquor. I am allowed to drink this liquor. But you cannot legally buy this liquor unless the distillery ships it out of the State of WA, to a retailer somewhere else. Then you can purchase it online, and it will be shipped back here. Why? Because the distillery won't bribe the LCB to stock their product in this state.

Yay State run liquor monopoly.
 

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