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Penhaligon's Hammam Bouquet or Chanel Antaeus? Reading "THE PREFECT GENTLEMAN", by James Sherwood

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by David Copeland, May 11, 2013.

  1. David Copeland

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    From this outstanding 2012 First Edition, the author writes:

    Weapons to Conquer Society -
    "Perfume, that most potent olfactory semaphore, says much about the man - particularly Penhaligon's Hammam Bouquet ."


    Who enjoys Penhaligon's Hammam Bouquet, as well as Chanel Antaeus?

    I'd be most appreciative to hear from you,

    David
     
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    Anyone enjoy Penhaligon's Hammam Bouquet, as well as Chanel Antaeus?
     
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    Quote:Hammam Bouquet has quite a sweet, sickly scent - I did not like it all. Penhaligon's Blenheim Bouquet, on the other hand, is great.
     
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    Scent is very personal. For myself, I find Blenheim Bouquet much too strong, and I happen to be wearing Hamman Bouquet today, which is a scent that does take some getting used to, but I find it very pleasant on a long-term basis. I also wear Penhaligon's Racquets with some regularity as well (or at least until such time as I run out, as Penhaligon's has ceased production of it).

    I've not smelled Antaeus in quite some time, but do not remember it bearing any resemblance, scent-wise to Hamman Bouquet. Is there any reason that you pair the two, OP?
     
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  5. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like Hammam Bouquet and enjoy wearing it. My wife can't stand it. It is an unusual scent and you should be sure you will like wearing it before buying it. Sherwood's comments are moronic and should be ignored--HB is a perfume, like any other, and besides his possible personal preference for it, there is nothing to connect it to the mindless ad copy you quote.
     
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    I like Hammam Bouquet and Blenheim. Hammam took a bit of getting used to, and my partner doesn't quite like it. But, I like peculiar scents.

    I'm actually quite interested in getting my hands on Knize Ten, created for the Viennese tailor to the Royal Court in the 20s. Have heard it's very long lasting, is a masculine scent, and smells of leather and tar.

    Not sure if it's true, or that it's saying much at all, but people on the Fedora Lounge say that it was a favorite of Bogart, Churchill, Flynn etc.

    http://boisdejasmin.com/2012/04/knize-ten-perfume-review.html
    http://www.essence-quintessence.com/knize-ten/
    http://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Knize/Knize-Ten-7913.html
    http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/knize-knize-ten-fragrance-review.html
    http://perfumeniche.com/knize-ten
     
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  7. dopey

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    Yes. Blenheim is great, too. I prefer it to HB and while BB is very distinctive, I find it much more wearable. In fact, it was a near daily wear for a while until I knocked the bottle over and broke it. I had so many other scents that I never bought a replacement, but now that I have gone through a few others, maybe I will.
     
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    By ad copy, I meant Sherwood's writing. it is not analysis, but rather puffery. However he meant it, it has no more content than an ad. BTW, the current version of Hammam Bouquet is very much a rendition rather than the original as many of the ingredients had to be changed from the original formulation because of EU safety and allergan rules. I like it, still, but there us nothing magical or extraordinary about it.
     
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  10. David Copeland

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    In addition to Sherwood's book, I may or may not find some reference to these items in the other two books I am reading. Do you have them?

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    DRESSING THE MAN, Mastering the Art of Permanent Fashion
    Alan Flusser

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    STYLE AND THE MAN
    Alan Flusser
     
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    I think I might have at least one of them somewhere. I know I have read them.
     
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    you are correct crust, Antaeus - especially vintage - really can't be compared to virtually anything Penhaligon markets
     
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    enjoy them . . . . yes, vintage Antaeus anyway. the only Penhaligons i find acceptable are Endymion & Sartorial
     
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    "Lean, lithe and potent just like its Greek hero namesake. The most potent, long-lasting form of men's fragrance. For an unmistakably masculine presence, day and night. Cooling, revitalizing spray to use lavishly all over the body."

    Ordered Antaeus today after reading some rave customer reviews at the Nordstrom's site.

    I could not find any of the Penhaligon fragrances for sale at any leading USA stores, such as Neiman Marcus, Nordstroms, or Saks. (Strange)

    Thank you for you input,

    David
     
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    Saks used to carry a few Penhaligon but the brand wasn't sexy enough for, what i term, the lemmings
    if you REALLY want to treat yourself, try to track down at least a sample of pre 1985 Antaeus just to compare pre IFRA regulation with now
     
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    When you buy a cologne without sampling it, it's called a blind buy, and it's risky. I did it once, and never again. As another poster mentioned, scent is a personal thing, not only in how you like it out of the bottle, but how it wears on you. I have tried 372 colognes. I own two. 372 is nothing, the top reviewers on Basenotes have all reviewed more than 1,000 colognes. These guys are experts, but I wouldn't blind buy anything they recommended. I'd sample them, but not blind buy them. Having said this, Chanel Antaeus is, for me, the best Chanel scent and probably in my top 20. Good out of the bottle, nice pepper note over time. Not a crazy niche scent, even if you don't love it, you probably won't hate it. Hope it works out for you, please report back.
     
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    Thank you for the tip. I did not know there was a forum dedicated to fragrances, and this should do well.

    Yes, you are absolutely correct in sampling before buying. When I used to live in Newport Beach and shopped at South Coast Plaza, the sales staff would generously provide me with free samples. And from the samples I would make a choice. Nordstroms offers free shipping on returns, and this is the first time I have ventured to buy first to sample - and hopefully keep, but backed by a free return.

    While I was on the Nordstrom site, I used their Chat and got transferred to the men's fragrance person who answered some questions. I asked about mailing samples, and he had the Chicago store call me immediately where the sales person asked what I have worn and what I was thinking about in order to put together samples to mail me. I learned that since moving to Montana I can still sample!

    As for Chanel as a brand, I purchased Chanel #5 for my wife years ago and it remains one of the most beautiful perfumes she wears (money well invested). The sales person said that "popular" fragrances today may not necessarily dismiss the beauty and choice of purchasing a standard which has reduced in sales over time, but that the standards remain strong enough in sales to continue to carry it.

    I'll follow up on this later,

    David
     
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    Penhaligon's is actually a rather small business (albeit with a royal warrant, I believe). Google them for their US website, and order yourself a sample selection (more expensive than sampling them in a department store, less expensive than getting on a plane and going to London to visit one of their shops). Some of their scents can be rather an acquired taste, but you may find something to your liking.
     
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  19. David Copeland

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    I received my Chanel Antaeus. Great product!

    Also, I spoke to a USA store of Penhaligon's and they mailed me complimentary samples of several selections. They have a very good sense also.

    And Nordstroms mailed me a dozen free samples of their recommended men's fragrances.

    I will have plenty to experiment with over the next month.

    David
     
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    I usually pay for my samples, since I have a bad track record of actually purchasing anything, I hate to impose. But you actually bought a bottle from Nordstrom's, so you can ask for samples guilt-free. Fun thing to get a bunch of samples in, enjoy.
     

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