Paying bribe for admission into top school - Worth it ?

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by aj_del, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    ^^ It's actually 10 lacs, not 22 lacs.

    Basically, that's what the question is. Is the network, status, bragging rights etc worth it ? Seems quite superficial (for lack of better word) but are they so important in life ?
     


  2. oman

    oman Senior member

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    as a member of the diaspora, i find india to be a very strange place

    i've noticed that wealthy indians raised in india have a much more realistic understanding of human nature than most people in the west, because life is very visceral there, very real. as a kid, you see things going on, and you realize that certain things are acceptable. you see the way the very poor are beaten for stealing an apple, and the very same day you see the very rich get away with (in some cases, quite literally) murder. it teaches you a lot about how humans really are, underneath all the social facades

    i'm not saying this picture of society is good or bad - i'm just saying it's accurate. it teaches you a lot about social boundaries, and ultimately, it probably empowers you. a lot of people in the west find this stuff revolting and repugnant, but western society is relatively egalitarian, and these westerners who complain about this sort of thing are mostly very sheltered, and lack exposure. in india, just having the ability to talk about 10 lakhs places you in the upper, upper class

    after all, we pretty much invented racism with that caste system stuff, and then the british came around and reinforced those divisions, and then ambedkar unwittingly reinforced them even more when he wrote the constitution. it makes sense that those things will remain a reality, and understanding reality is never a bad thing
     


  3. oman

    oman Senior member

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    i mean, things are changing quite rapidly all of a sudden. india is far from a third-rate power now. the locus of power is shifting back to asia, and the asian paradigm is quite different from the west. i've never been to china but from what i've read, i'm sure they're even worse than the indians when it comes to this stuff

    your son will have to deal with a different world when he grows up, and anything you can do to give him an edge will help
     


  4. CunningSmeagol

    CunningSmeagol Senior member

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    ^^ I told you how much a maid's salary is worth and how much my wife earns. I can tell you the price of a Coke and a McD burger (around 120 INR - 2.5 USD). Any other info you would like ....

    And the most expensive tailor in Delhi charges Rs.10000 (USD 220) for making a suit. Labour only


    Right and if you need to tell us this shit, how are we (mostly American; excuse me, oman, you worldly motherfucker) supposed to educate you on the social worth of a good Indian school?

    Do you seriously expect people who don't know how much things cost in India without you telling them to know anything at all about the value of an Indian prep school?

    Also, are we to assume your wife is the only member of your family who works?

    There just aren't enough [​IMG] s
     


  5. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    ^^ Dont really know what you are saying but for the sake of discussion assume that I make the Indian equivalent of 200000 USD And if this info is still not enough, please refrain from participating in this thread further [​IMG]
     


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    erdawe Senior member

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    Right and if you need to tell us this shit, how are we (mostly American; excuse me, oman, you worldly motherfucker) supposed to educate you on the social worth of a good Indian school?

    Do you seriously expect people who don't know how much things cost in India without you telling them to know anything at all about the value of an Indian prep school?

    Also, are we to assume your wife is the only member of your family who works?

    There just aren't enough [​IMG] s


    Maybe you're best not responding to subjects you admit to know little about, since you are the one complaining about he lack of given background information.

    Just because a thread is posted and a question is asked does not mean everyone who reads it should feel compelled to respond with useless advice. Since they otherwise would be ill-informed on the subject. Not everyone on here is American by birth or even by residency (and I say this as a native-born American myself). I'm sure there's enough people with experience of India's culture/educational system on this board to reply. If not, the thread simply dies..

    Perhaps, you should move on and stop thread shttng.
     


  7. sunror

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    i dont think 22k is unreasonable for a school your son will go to for twelve years
     


  8. imschatz

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    If you can afford it, and you think it is worth it .. is it not your job as a parent to do it? I've always been under the impression that once you have children everything you do should be in some way related to increasing your childs living standards. If this better school increases the expected value of your child's future .. then it is a no-brainer.
     


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    I would look at it from a slightly different perspective. If the School Fee was 10 lacs for the 12 year period, would you still be trying to get him in? If yes, the bribe is worth it as its the cost of a good education. If you wouldn't pay it legitimately then the bribe is not worth paying.
     


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    For once I agree with Oman... if this will actually set the course for your kids future AND ensures he gets in for 12+ years... DO IT. I can tell you I keep in ZERO contact with my HS friends, but still, he might run the place.


    I dont know your situation, but you may be able to drop him down to 18-20k?
     


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    Can you afford it? Once he is in will his class, background, or whatever else make him stand out as the bastard whose dad coughed up his last 20k for this while the rest all were born to it, thus undermining the whole project? Can you talk him down? Are you sure it will work? Assuming you can provide the correct answer to these questions, go for it.
    I never would but then I'm an American.
     


  12. Davidko19

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    Can you afford it? Once he is in will his class, background, or whatever else make him stand out as the bastard whose dad coughed up his last 20k for this while the rest all were born to it, thus undermining the whole project? Can you talk him down? Are you sure it will work? Assuming you can provide the correct answer to these questions, go for it.
    I never would but then I'm an American.


    as mentioned earlier, these pressures simply do not exist in America.

    The DREAM is that you can be what you want, despiste your upbringing. And by and large, a lot of sucessfful peol have done that.
     


  13. rexthedestroyer

    rexthedestroyer Senior member

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    Wow, that is about 10% of your income. I think the price is too high. If you feel your local school is good enough for the kid to succeed on his own, then I think you should go that route. What does your wife think? If you can drop it down to 10K then that would be worth it. As an American I have some morale issues with you doing this, but that was not your question.
     


  14. Mr Herbert

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    as a member of the diaspora, i find india to be a very strange place i've noticed that wealthy indians raised in india have a much more realistic understanding of human nature than most people in the west, because life is very visceral there, very real.
    they can also be some of the rudest most demanding fuckers in the world. it can be such a shock for them when they have to move to a western country and suddenly become mildly wealthy instead of upper echelon. no talking about bollywood actor type rich tho
     


  15. rexthedestroyer

    rexthedestroyer Senior member

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    as mentioned earlier, these pressures simply do not exist in America.

    The DREAM is that you can be what you want, despiste your upbringing. And by and large, a lot of sucessfful peol have done that.


    I was on Youtube today listening to an educator (Geoffrey Canada) and he pretty much stated the same thing you said. Our school system is the great equilizer in American society. While it would be great to graduate from an Ivy league school, a kid that came up through the state school system can easily become a CEO/MD/JD/POTUS, etc. The only notable exception is the US Supreme Court.
     


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