Paul Stuart Formalwear

[MrDaniels]

Here are two recent tux styles from Paul Stuart...the first one is bold, but I think very marketable. The second one makes me question who would purchase it, and why would they manufacture it in the first place?

What says the jury?

 

[TheWraith]

I prefer the first one. Looks like a traditional dinner jacket to me (I'm commenting on the jacket, not the vest or shirt).

 

[ter1413]

Originally Posted by TheWraith

I prefer the first one. Looks like a traditional dinner jacket to me.

 

[landshark]

The first one is my idea for a perfect tuxedo. The jacket is a little short on him, but otherwise fantastic.

 

[MrDaniels]

I don't think I have ever seen such a wide spread collar on a tux shirt before.

 

[SirGrotius]

The first one is weird and edgy, which I wouldn't expect from PS. The second one is a monstrosity.

 

[nmprisons]

Originally Posted by SirGrotius

The first one is weird and edgy, which I wouldn't expect from PS.

It is from the Phineas Cole line.

 

[howbah]

Originally Posted by MrDaniels

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edgy, or perhaps one might say 'on the cusp', these casually sophisticated outfits evince a restrained boldness that looks forward while nodding to tradition and stepping forth unabashedly into the present and indeed the future ...

these aren't your grandpa's dinner jackets -- nosirree!

 

[Matt S]

The first one looks great except for the two obvious problems: the jacket is too short and the cutaway collar is out of place.

The second one also is too short in the jacket length. And it has four buttons too many.

 

[TimelesStyle]

Originally Posted by SirGrotius

The first one is weird and edgy, which I wouldn't expect from PS. The second one is a monstrosity.

I don't consider it particularly "edgy" or "weird," it's just the cane and **** face that give it those apparent qualities.

 

[dasai]

Having the vest on the first one be a 2x1 instead of a 6x3 would make it 100x better.

 

[pvrhye]

Originally Posted by TimelesStyle

I don't consider it particularly "edgy" or "weird," it's just the cane and **** face that give it those apparent qualities.

Super throwback waistcoat with flat fronts is a bit weird.

 

[Matt S]

Originally Posted by dasai

Having the vest on the first one be a 2x1 instead of a 6x3 would make it 100x better.

2x1 for a waistcoat? 4x2 is the classic for evening wear, though I don't mind the 6x3 so much.

Originally Posted by pvrhye

Super throwback waistcoat with flat fronts is a bit weird.

Look back earlier than the 1930s. Before that, waistcoats like this were worn with flat front trousers.

 

[MrDaniels]

Originally Posted by TimelesStyle

I don't consider it particularly "edgy" or "weird," it's just the cane and **** face that give it those apparent qualities.

 

[AlexE]

Originally Posted by MrDaniels

Here are two recent tux styles from Paul Stuart...the first one is bold, but I think very marketable. The second one makes me question who would purchase it, and why would they manufacture it in the first place?

What says the jury?

The first dinner suit (jacket, waistcoat and trousers) looks great to me. Sure the fit for the model is only 90% perfect (shortish jacket), but that would not keep me from buying it (in the appropriate size) since the overall shape and details are great. Traditionalist may complain about the side vents and the 2 extra buttons on the waistcoat, but I certainly can live with such minor deviations from the traditional design. When it comes to the shirt I agree that the collar spread is too extreme for a formal shirt to be worn with a bow tie.

The second dinner suit reminds of the uniforms worn by the crew in the Titanic movie...and looking at it causes the same pain as watching the movie.