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I have to agree. L'Atelier, Paris is Joel's best effort. There are more romantic places, but this is a wonderful choice overall. Do think about giving it a try.
It's the crown jewel restaurant of the chef who has been named the best chef of the last century. I haven't seen the same level from the other efforts in NYC, Vegas etc...
You guys have to be kidding. I mean, it is good, very good, but it is hardly his best ever effort.
I am certainly open to hearing other thoughts. What do you feel has trumped the Paris location? If it is indeed the case, and I haven't been, I'd love to give it try at some point.
It's the crown jewel restaurant of the chef who has been named the best chef of the last century. I haven't seen the same level from the other efforts in NYC, Vegas etc...
Joel Robuchon in Vegas has 3*'s vs 2 for L'Atelier in Paris...I think it's a hard argument to make that the Paris L'Atelier is certainly his "crown jewel".
Joel Robuchon in Vegas has 3*'s vs 2 for L'Atelier in Paris...I think it's a hard argument to make that the Paris L'Atelier is certainly his "crown jewel".
I'm planning a trip to Paris in the Spring, my first time there as an adult. I want to get a sense of the restuarant scene there. I've read this thread with great interest, but my requirements differ a bit. This is just for me and my wife, and I'd like to splurge on high-caliber foodie restaurant that is also romantic. If I were able to describe an ideal spot, it would be Michelin rated, serving classical and modern French cuisine, a seasonal menu, in a historic building. Couple of general questions while I have your ear. First, a dumb question regarding budget. How much can I expect to cost at a 2 or 3 star Michelin restaruant in Paris? Are prices comparable to similarly rated restaurants in California? We would likely be doing the chef's tasting menu. Second dumb question, will they likely speak English? Third question, is dining more formal there? Would I need to pack a suit and tie? Fourth, how difficult is it to get a reservation? How far in advance can I book? Best method? Best time? In LA, I usually reserve for 8:00, but understand that they usually eat later across the pond. If you have any suggestions as far as other things to do at night, I would appreciate those as well. We're too old to go clubbing, but would be open to seeing a show or the symphony or the opera or something like that.
I worked at L'Atelier in Paris. There is nothing like it elsewhere, sorry.
On that note I would say CafÃ
I agree on Daniel vs Cafe Boulud. I much prefer Cafe Boulud's decor, food, ambiance and service.
Your heavy reliance on michelin stars is pretty revealing.
opinion from a few folks here seems to be that the Paris outpost is better. That's fine. but even if it's 20% better or whatever, you can still get something close to it in various spots around the world, and in OP's case just a few hours drive from LA. that's my point - there are so many great options that you should choose something that's truly unique. additionally, if it's your goal to try the absolute best that this chef/group is capable of, it's possible that it's a 3 hour drive from LA and not a 12 hour plane ride. I would guess that the dining experience / service / romantic experience is unquestionably better at Joël Robuchon just b/c of the type of place it is. the food, I dunno. now, if you absolutely love A'telier in Vegas/LA/London and want to see this concept at it's peak (or even validate that opinion) instead of trying something new, then go for it.I might avoid (A'telier) just b/c you can eat at the American outpost (which will be different, sure...)...anyways try something you can't get over here