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Panta: a first peek at a new high quality pants line

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by voxsartoria, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Doxe

    Doxe Senior member

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    I asked my tailor for no rear pockets on my suit pants and was told that having pockets somehow adds to the strength and construction of the pants.

    Still, I prefer the streamlined look of no rear pockets.
     
  2. haganah

    haganah Senior member

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    Wait, there are people around here who use their back pockets?
    When you are in the bathroom what do you do with your blackberry? Don't tell me you hold it or put it in your side pockets like a philistine.
     
  3. Douglas

    Douglas Senior member

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    Ed, will you please call the fuller cut line "The Douglas."

    [​IMG]
     
  4. NorCal_1

    NorCal_1 Senior member

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    Sorry for the fit pic, but it was rather windy this morning:

    [​IMG]

    - B



    Vox, did you size up?


    Ed gave me thse dimensions for a size 34 and I would definitely need to size up to a 36 since I have 'normal' size legs



    34
    waist-34
    rise-10.5
    back rise-15.5
    thigh-13.5
    knee-9
    leg opening-8
     
  5. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    When you are in the bathroom what do you do with your blackberry? Don't tell me you hold it or put it in your side pockets like a philistine.

    I hope that they never discover his secret, which is that he only poops in Napoli.

    In between trips, it's all about holding it in.


    - B



    - B
     
  6. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Vox, did you size up?

    Yes, and then had things altered down with the seat and waist taken in. I wasn't exactly sure about the cut, and as Ed noted earlier, he's not vanity sizing these pants.

    - B
     
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    haganah Senior member

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    OK I feel so awkward looking at Vox's seat but something about it looks...lifeless. I'm sorry but your ass is lifeless. I don't know if it is because of the pants or your own doing.
     
  8. ramuman

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    I think I'm sold on these...will need to try the light grey. BTW, 3 pockets seems perfect for me. Where do you guys keep keys/wallet/phone when you don't have the jacket?
     
  9. NorCal_1

    NorCal_1 Senior member

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    Yes, and then had things altered down with the seat and waist taken in. I wasn't exactly sure about the cut, and as Ed noted earlier, he's not vanity sizing these pants.

    - B



    OK, I thought so

    the vanity sizing is the issue - why have pants with the wrong taper so that everybody needs to size up?

    I had the same trouble with Howard Yount pants - just too slim in standard sizes

    here are what I would consider tapered dimensions for a size 34 pant that would be good for almost anybody:



    size: 34
    waist-34
    rise-10
    thigh under front pocket-14
    knee-10
    leg opening-8.25
     
  10. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    I'm sorry but your ass is lifeless.

    Thank you.


    - B
     
  11. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Senior member

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    OK I feel so awkward looking at Vox's seat but something about it looks...lifeless. I'm sorry but your ass is lifeless. I don't know if it is because of the pants or your own doing.

    So we have a frame of reference could you show us a couple of pics of asses you regard as lively?
     
  12. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    What exactly do you carry around in the course of a normal day? If I remember correctly, you are also quite concerned about having enough jacket pocket space. So, if you have four interior jacket pockets, two usable exterior jacket pockets and two front pant pockets, what is it that you are unable to carry? Curious minds, and all.

    Quite simple if I am not wearing a jacket - these trousers are not part of a suit.
     
  13. ramuman

    ramuman Senior member

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    So we have a frame of reference could you show us a couple of pics of asses you regard as lively?
    Vaguely NSFW
     
  14. imatlas

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    OK, I thought so

    the vanity sizing is the issue - why have pants with the wrong taper so that everybody needs to size up?

    I had the same trouble with Howard Yount pants - just too slim in standard sizes

    here are what I would consider tapered dimensions for a size 34 pant that would be good for almost anybody:



    size: 34
    waist-34
    rise-10
    thigh under front pocket-14
    knee-10
    leg opening-8.25


    +1

    My thighs measure 24", which I don't consider especially large, and most slim fit trousers fit me like paint. My fat ass is an even bigger problem, and again, it's not all particularly big.
     
  15. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    I thought the single back pocket was a reasonable compromise between these points of view.

    How about this? No back pockets, but cargo pockets on the thighs?

    Watcha think?


    - B


    Notalot
     
  16. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Is this better?

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    Who on earth is that tailor - presumably no left in-breast pocket by the looks?
     
  17. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    So we have a frame of reference could you show us a couple of pics of asses you regard as lively?

    [​IMG]


    - B
     
  18. GBR

    GBR Senior member

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    Wait, there are people around here who use their back pockets?

    Matt

    You raise an interesting question. You don't I assume? That seems slightly odd as the Ambrosi trousers you so eloquently described in your original blog had two. A fine pair (plural actually I think)) of trousers I might add which you presumably choose two back pockets as well as the TWO fob/watch style pockets.
     
  19. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    Matt

    You raise an interesting question. You don't I assume? That seems slightly odd as the Ambrosi trousers you s eloquently described in your original blog had two. A fine pair (plural actually I think)) of trousers I might add which you presumably choose two back pockets as well as the TWO fob/watch style pockets.


    [​IMG]


    - B
     
  20. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    OK, I thought so

    the vanity sizing is the issue - why have pants with the wrong taper so that everybody needs to size up?

    I had the same trouble with Howard Yount pants - just too slim in standard sizes

    here are what I would consider tapered dimensions for a size 34 pant that would be good for almost anybody:



    size: 34
    waist-34
    rise-10
    thigh under front pocket-14
    knee-10
    leg opening-8.25



    Everyone will not need to size up, the fit will work for some, not work for others. That is the issue with RTW, there is no "normal" fit that would make everyone happy [​IMG] . One of my goals with the pants was not to have that excess fabric behind the thigh and calf that you see flapping about in some RTW pants. The measurements you posted would be a bit bigger than what I would like if I were buying size 34 pants.
     

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