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Panta: a first peek at a new high quality pants line

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by voxsartoria, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Odd I/O

    Odd I/O Senior member

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    I have a noobish fit question. With a 10.5 inch rise where do the waist of these pants 'sit'? Is it at the navel/belly button level or below? If below by how much?
     


  2. Matt S

    Matt S Senior member

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    I have a noobish fit question. With a 10.5 inch rise where do the waist of these pants 'sit'? Is it at the navel/belly button level or below? If below by how much?

    That depends on your body alone. And your navel has nothing to do with the position of your waist.
     


  3. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    i'm late to the party here, but i've been blown away. i am definitely in at some point, probably for the cashmere in w34.

    Ed, would there be any chance of a navy blue worsted or flannel?
     


  4. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff grrrrrrrr!!

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    yeah if Panta gets a super 160 tan worsted flat front i am game
     


  5. moontime

    moontime Senior member

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    Im in for cashmere 34w as well.
     


  6. nioh

    nioh Senior member

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    Looks good, too bad (single) pleats are treated with slight disdain though as I feel most would benefit from that, especially with office pants.
     


  7. Matt S

    Matt S Senior member

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    Looks good, too bad (single) pleats are treated with slight disdain though as I feel most would benefit from that, especially with office pants.

    It would be great if these were offered in a single forward pleat. It would also be nice to see them in a long rise as well. The only long-rise trousers I see these days are the ones sold with Long-length suits.
     


  8. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    This review appeared in my RSS feed but strangely is not available on the Permanent Style blog page. Panta: Great trousers made in New York from Permanent style by Simon Crompton I’ve written before that trousers can be the hardest thing for a man to source once he has gone bespoke with his jackets and shirts. It seems like a waste to have separate trousers made by a bespoke tailor – so much less figuration required. But experience of bespoke makes it very hard to trawl the high street looking for a model (or quality) that you like. (For the past couple of years I have often had trousers made with my Hong Kong tailor, but a change of jobs means I am unlikely to be there so often.) One solution, certainly to the second problem, is the trousers being produced by Ed Morel in New York under his new label Panta Clothing. Ed wanted to be able to produce trousers of a quality comparable with Kiton, Borrelli and Oxxford (more common reference points in the US than here) that he could design himself and make more affordable, but he also wanted to highlight the great manufacturing available in New York by having them all made locally. At over $200, they are not cheap by high street standards. But the workmanship is superb and they’re a lot cheaper than Kiton. The handstitching or tacking around the waistband, pockets and fly is impressive, and everything from the thread used for the sewing (Gutterman) to the buttons (French horn) is quality. Each pair comes with spare buttons and taping to go around the (obviously unfinished) bottoms. I’m a particular fan of the closing at the front, which features two buttons on the inside and a long tab that slips underneath the first belt loop. There will be both slim and classic fits, though the initial first samples (details here) are all in the slim fit. While not aggressively narrow, I did find that I needed the 34 inch rather than 32 (I am actually a 33, so either way an alteration is required) so that the space in the seat and thigh were sufficient. Then again, my tailor Russell is always telling me I have a particularly prominent posterior, so you might not have the same problem. The colours available are slightly unusual while still classic, the brown I got (pictured) a slightly lighter tone than one would assume and equally the air force blue that I will likely get next. Lovely texture on the cashmere option as well. Some readers of Style Forum, where Ed launched this product, have commented that they would prefer side straps to belt loops. I’m torn but I marginally prefer belt loops with odd trousers – the ability to accessorise the belt just outweighs the obvious practicality of the straps on fit over time. On suits, I always have side straps. Eventually Ed will have product with side straps, though, as well as the classic cut and some other products like seven-fold ties. They will all appear on the website, which is under construction. In the meantime anyone interested can contact Ed on [email protected] or through Style Forum.
     


  9. Matt S

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    Classic fit with a long rise, side straps, and single forward pleats would do it for me.
     


  10. EuropeanInterloper Redux

    EuropeanInterloper Redux Well-Known Member

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    Looks great; am up for one of each. Would eventually like to also see versions with sidetabs and no back pockets.

    Outstanding looking work.

    D
     


  11. CunningSmeagol

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    I wonder if Ed can make one with a centered single back pocket (ideally flapped). I think most of the posters who do not like the single back pocket are more worried about the loss of symmetry than the loss of carrying capacity, and simply moving the pocket would remedy that.
     


  12. AJL

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    I wonder if Ed can make one with a centered single back pocket (ideally flapped). I think most of the posters who do not like the single back pocket are more worried about the loss of symmetry than the loss of carrying capacity, and simply moving the pocket would remedy that.

    Cyclopanta?
     


  13. lovelux2010

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    any word on when Ed will start selling Panta trousers?...
    the "official" Panta thread is closed, and i remember reading new trousers would come out a few months back, but SF land seems quite on the topic!
     


  14. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    Some are on sale right now on the B & S.
     


  15. lovelux2010

    lovelux2010 Senior member

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    Some are on sale right now on the B & S.


    i can see his ties for sale..
    but cannot find any of the trousers..
    in fact i've been keeping an eye out for them for months but have yet to find them!
     


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