Pairing oxford shoes with chinos

[mak1277]

Not used to seeing the term "horsebutt."

Go to the viberg thread, it's used in every third post.

 

[bicycleradical]

How about this look?

what do you guys think?

No bueno.

 

[Sir Jack II]

How about this look?

what do you guys think?

Trigger warning: I really dislike fancy denim with the little roll. It just looks so twee. I predict that five years from now, if not sooner, it’ll be generally clucked at.

I think a pair of bluchers would fit this outfit so much better. Oxfords don’t belong here.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

How about this look?

what do you guys think?

see the “tryhard” thread.

there are elements that I like, but the turned up cuffs with no socks is a bit much, footwear choice notwithstanding.

edit: typo

 

[jack webb]

To my eye an untucked shirt works best if both it and the pants run more towards fitted than loose. I think generously-cut untucked shirts paired with relaxed-fit trousers look sloppy. Just a preference.

 

[Stylewords]

Trigger warning: I really dislike fancy denim with the little roll. It just looks so twee. I predict that five years from now, if not sooner, it’ll be generally clucked at.

I think a pair of bluchers would fit this outfit so much better. Oxfords don’t belong here.

I don't get it. People have been wearing it selvedge denim with turn-ups/rolls for decades.

 

[JFWR]

No bueno.

The no-socks with a black cap toed oxford?

I think he could have pulled off some socks and some brogues in an oxford, but why pick the most formal oxford?

Honestly, I would probably suggest that it is not the wisest thing in the world to wear oxfords with jeans, though I think you can sometimes pull it off, but definitely not black cap toes in the normal course of affairs. I think you can more reliably wear oxfords with chinos, and I think it's insane to say you can't wear them with a sport coat/trousers combo.

I'm not really a "jeans guy", though. I am thinking of buying a pair for the first time in 20 years, but then again, also "no".

 

[Phileas Fogg]

I don't get it. People have been wearing it selvedge denim with turn-ups/rolls for decades.

people have also been pretending to like Bob Dylan for nearly 60 years.

 

[ValidusLA]

The no-socks with a black cap toed oxford?

I think he could have pulled off some socks and some brogues in an oxford, but why pick the most formal oxford?

Honestly, I would probably suggest that it is not the wisest thing in the world to wear oxfords with jeans, though I think you can sometimes pull it offm, but definitely not black cap toes in the normal course of affairs. I think you can more reliably wear oxfords with chinos, and I think it's insane to say you can't wear them with a sport coat/trousers combo.

I'm not really a "jeans guy", though. I am thinking of buying a pair for the first time in 20 years, but then again, also "no".

Not meaning to come at you personally here, so please don't take it as such.

But I think this thread is illustrative of some of the points being made here.

JFWR is in the chinos w/ oxfords camp, and thinks that oxfords w/ jeans (in some situations) can work. Yet doesn't wear jeans.

Similarly, other vociferous posters on the thread who support oxfords w/ chinos, or jeans, have expressed generalizations that they prefer suits or don't wear denim.

I feel like the people who are generally against the look of chinos/denim w/ an oxford have much more exposure to denim/SWD in general.

I, for example, do operations for a private label denim company (I know, Chihuahua will be upset I'm neither a famous dead painter nor a wedding planner). We ship tens of thousands of jeans and chinos in 100's of sku's every week. I walk into our showrooms both in LA and NY and see what our designers are pairing with chinos and denim. Oxfords are just, not in the wheelhouse. Not even stylistically adjacent.

I also wear denim, mostly Japanese selvedge with a higher rise and thicker hand feel. I have left the Diesel abominations behind in my 20's (though I liked them quite a bit back then - live and learn).

 

[JFWR]

people have also been pretending to like Bob Dylan for nearly 60 years.

I don't know if I have ever understood a single word that man has sung in any of his songs.

 

[reidrothchild]

I don't like that jeans/oxford look at all.

To the extent there's this fascination with it, I personally think Paul Stuart does an excellent job both of pushing boundaries in terms of blending casual/streetwear-type clothing (I'm not going to say "caj" because, if you say "caj" five times while looking in the mirror, Chihuahua will appear behind you and call you a "loafer guy") and Classic Menswear.

Here are two looks I quite like from the Fall '21 catalogue. I don't think I could pull either off myself because they're too bold for my personal style--and I don't have the money to put together $10,000 outfits.

The first look is probably fairly within the range of CM, just with bolder patterns/colors/textures. Would the first look be just fine with some suede or pebble-grained brogue oxfords? Sure? I guess. But it looks much better with Chelseas.

The second one has some CM elements (a sport coat, anyway) and probably shouldn't work. I'm sure many on here don't think it does, but I like the suede trainer with that outfit more than I'd like any oxford because the model is wearing entirely textured knit/jersey fabric. It's about as casual a look from the ankles up as you can get and still be arguably within the realm of CM. So I think the look is more coherent sneakers than if Paul Stuart decided to throw some black oxfords in there. And look #2 is more "dressed up" than the dude above in camo and jeans.

 

[radicaldog]

loafers or slip ons or opera pumps or whatever

I think they're house slippers. In which case, they're more subdued than the kilim slippers that were popular back then (I confess I have a pair, bought as a laugh, though these days I mostly wear Friulian velvet slippers at home in the morning).

 

[ValidusLA]

people have also been pretending to like Bob Dylan for nearly 60 years.

I don't know if I have ever understood a single word that man has sung in any of his songs.

My dad claims to like Bob Dylan, but I think it's just cause he's a hippy who went to Cal in the 70's.

 

[bicycleradical]

The no-socks with a black cap toed oxford?

I think he could have pulled off some socks and some brogues in an oxford, but why pick the most formal oxford?

Honestly, I would probably suggest that it is not the wisest thing in the world to wear oxfords with jeans, though I think you can sometimes pull it offm, but definitely not black cap toes in the normal course of affairs. I think you can more reliably wear oxfords with chinos, and I think it's insane to say you can't wear them with a sport coat/trousers combo.

I'm not really a "jeans guy", though. I am thinking of buying a pair for the first time in 20 years, but then again, also "no".

No socks with black cap toe oxfords is pretty silly. No socks with black cap toe oxfords and denim is ridiculous, imo. This would have been much better with some loafers.

 

[ValidusLA]

I think they're house slippers. In which case, they're more subdued than the kilim slippers that were popular back then (I confess I have a pair, bought as a laugh, though these days I mostly wear Friulian velvet slippers at home in the morning).

Definitely house slippers. I wear these guys:

around the house b/c my wife does not allow shoes. But those are just backless versions of:

Which is consonant design and shape wise w/ the slippers you correctly identified as house slippers.