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Paid for an item with paypal, then changed my mind. Seller refusing to cancel, any advice?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by stylenewbie, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    So I went on ebay, tried to buy a used suit. Ended up paying directly through paypal since the buyer and I couldn't agree on a best offer through ebay (the seller messaged me to suggest doing this so he could avoid ebay fees). This was Monday (yesterday).

    And then I found almost the exact same suit nwt.

    The seller hadn't shipped it out yet (he said he wouldn't get it out until thursday or friday). But he had slipped in a note on the paypal invoice he sent me that there were no returns. Now he is refusing to cancel the order.

    Any ideas of what can be done? I understand the seller must be frustrated...but dude hasn't even shipped it out yet. I did add a note that I wanted the buyer to "try to have it arrive at my place within 3-5 days as agreed upon" when I sent him the money.

    Edit: People seem to be confused. I know I'm shit out of luck. I know what the parameters are. That's why I posted here to see if any out of the box thinkers had any ideas :). No need for everybody to keep restating the obvious. I'm not looking for the internet protocol police.

    Edit again: Putting my rebuttal in here to pre-empt some of the vitriol I've been getting. Calm down fellas.

    It's very common to be able to return something. That's pretty basic american commerce. Not just the big box stores. The majority of individual sellers on ebay, small mom and pop stores. They have return policies.

    Normally what happens? Somebody buys something. You package it up, spend 30min on USPS printing a label, treck to the post office drop it off. Then he returns it, and you have to go to the trouble of getting the package back, and ripping off the return label. The buyer pays return shipping. That's accepted practice.

    In my case what kind of extra effort did I give this poor seller? He spent some time messaging me. That's pretty much it. Now compare that with being out $500 for something you don't want.

    On top of it, I didn't exactly like the fact that he slipped in a little note about no returns on the bottom of his invoice (it was a paragraph long), which I was not made aware of until after I asked for the cancellation. The seller never informed me of his no-return in our interactions prior.
     
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  2. breakaway01

    breakaway01 Senior member

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    You agreed to buy the suit.
    You went outside the eBay buying process.
    You received a Paypal invoice that explicitly stated no returns.
    You paid anyhow.
    Now you want to get out of the transaction.
    Did I understand all of this correctly?
    What exactly are you hoping others here will say?
     
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  3. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    Not what you're saying :)
    No need to state the obvious that I'm in a predicament of course.
    Anybody have real advice?
     
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  4. coopers

    coopers Member

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    Change your mind again.
     
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  5. YRR92

    YRR92 Senior member

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    You agreed to no returns. Now you want a return. You're out of luck on that one.

    If you still want the suit, does it matter if it was NWT or merely in good shape? I mean, the first thing you'd do would be to cut the tags off, I hope. [​IMG]
     
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  6. breakaway01

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    I don't understand why you are calling this a "predicament". The solution to your problem is to do the right thing. Simple.

    You can always try to open a Paypal dispute but I don't see what grounds you have for getting a refund. Because you found a better deal after you paid for something with a no return policy?

    My advice is to do the right thing and follow through with what you agreed to do.
     
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  7. A Guy from Shanghai

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    You can try persuade the seller to take the return by offering a "restocking fee". Bear in mind, the seller has every right to say "no".
     
  8. Stewie

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    If any of this correspondence was done using eBay messaging, maybe remind the seller that he may have gone against eBay policy and you surely don't want to "report" him to eBay :)
     
  9. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    Thanks! Some useful advice. I'll give that a shot.

    Breakaway: Shame on you you've only been on this site for 4 months and you're already a snarky ass, that should only happen after you've been here a few yrs :)
     
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  10. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    Hmm I'll consider that...seems kind of extreme though.
     
  11. TheWraith

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    He's not. You made the mistake, now just suck it up and be a man.
     
  12. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    I'm sorry did I offend you?
     
  13. stylenewbie

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    Yeah but wouldn't you prefer a brand new with tags Isaia over one that was used and worn and sweated in that sells for the same price? There's a reason used suits go for 200-300 less than NWT on the greymarket. And if you discovered you could get the exact same suit NWT, wouldn't you do your best to cancel your previous order?
     
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  14. YRR92

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    Of course NWT is better. But if you agreed to no returns, then you can't do a return. What's not to get? You agreed to something, and now you wish you hadn't. It sucks, but generally everything sucks.
     
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  15. GothamRed

    GothamRed Senior member

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    Keep it, sell it, put it back on eBay, whatever, but [based on the fact pattern you've laid out above] if you do anything other than graciously accept the suit you bought and paid for, you're an asshole — straight up.
     
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  16. scholseys

    scholseys Well-Known Member

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    Put it back on ebay, and hope someone like you buys it.
     
  17. RashedMohamed

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    Ebay is good for selling and buying?
     
  18. stylenewbie

    stylenewbie Senior member

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    Wow why are you getting your panties in such a bunch?

    It's very common to be able to return something. That's pretty basic american commerce. Not just the big box stores. The majority of individual sellers on ebay, small mom and pop stores. They have return policies.

    Normally what happens? Somebody buys something. You package it up, spend 30min on USPS printing a label, treck to the post office drop it off. Then he returns it, and you have to go to the trouble of getting the package back, and ripping off the return label. The buyer pays return shipping. That's accepted practice.

    In my case what kind of extra effort did I give this poor seller? He spent some time messaging me. That's pretty much it. Now compare that with being out $500 for something you don't want.

    On top of it, I didn't exactly like the fact that he slipped in a little note about no returns on the bottom of his invoice (it was a paragraph long). The no return policy had never been discussed before.
     
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  19. Dave510

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    The RedDevil is correct. You had agreed to buying the item, and did not check if return was accepted. Not buying it after committing is an asshole move. You argue being able to return is "basic American commerce", but don't you think knowing what you are buying and keeping your word are also basic American commerce? Besides, whether or not a seller accepts returns is a purely business decision, and has nothing to do with some American tradition or what not.
     
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